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SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 5:06 pm

Hi all --

I have a few questions about SIA's fleet and future expansions.

When does Singapore Airlines plan to retire there Airbus A310-300's? I know a few years ago they were planning to retire them and order aircraft to replace them. Do you think SIA should order the A330-200 to replace them. I think that would be the best aircraft for the routes they do operate the A310's on. I think SIA has about 10 of them in there fleet currently.

Also with there Boeing 747-400's getting to be about five years now do you think they will start to retire some of the there older 747-400's or lease them to other airlines anytime soon? I really don't think they should start to replace there 747-400's anytime soon but with there A340-500's and A380's coming soon you have to think what they are going to do with all the 40+ 747-400's in there fleet. The sure is alot of 747-400's. Will they be using the 747-400 to Los Angeles and San Francisco with the A340-500?

One last question is Singapore Airlines planning any more expansions anywhere in the world especially North America (Houston, Seattle, Detroit) etc? Do you think Singapore Airlines has a market to fly to South America like Malaysia Airlines and Japan AirLine does. I think MAS and JAL fly to Brazil.

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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 5:23 pm

For the B747 issue look at the thread just below...  Smile

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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 5:24 pm

Well... SQ will replace the A310s with more 777s. As to whether the A330-200 is more suited, isn't that aircraft used for long haul? Whereas the A310s fly regional - medium haul routes.

The handful of A380s that SQ has in line would be used to routes far flung but high in density eg. LHR, LAX... so the 747-400s would still be around for a while.

SQ is slowly but steadily expanding in the US. So don't be surprised if more destinations come on line in the future. However, SQ trans-Pacific / Atlantic pax normally originate from their stopover stations like TPE, SEL, NRT, AMS, and FRA.

As for South America, MAS currently holds the distinction of being the only SE Asian carrier to fly to South America. I have always wondered about the loads because frankly speaking, I didn't know that there was much traffic between these 2 continents. Hence, the tourist traffic potential is still relatively untapped.

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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:10 pm

I doubt SQ will ever deploy an aircraft on a long haul route just to tap onto tourist traffic (unless it is for political reasons).... Remember tourist traffic do not garner much yield for an airline. I would think that SQ will fly to a city only if it feels that there is enough front end traffic to justify doing so.
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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:16 pm

I know that Singapore is increasing its flights into Christchurch to a daily service woth the new services starting in November
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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:18 pm

Where in S America does MAS fly to? Whenever I travel to Brazil from Singapore I always end up going via London - takes me about 30hrs to get from Sg to Brasilia!!
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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:51 pm

Businessflyer -

MH flies to Buenos Aires 2x a week on Wed and Sun using B747-400. Perhaps from there you could transfer to Varig to fly to Brasilia?

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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 6:53 pm

Or transfer in JNB from SQ to SAA for the onward flight to GRU.
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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:08 pm

Cheers... just looked at the time lines involved and I think you only save a couple of hours going via S Africa which surprised me somewhat as I thought it would be quicker. I sometimes wonder about going via NZ, but to be honest going via London means I get to go via BA's business class which as far as I am concerned, remains the best in the world!

PS. Does anybody know how MH does on its route to EZE? Apparently they can pick pax up in S Africa, but I still wonder about traffic vols.
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RE: SIA Questions

Tue Sep 03, 2002 9:22 pm

MH to EZE have low loads, MH is still considering dropping the route. Apparently, it's a political route. I think they use the 744 for the route.

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RE: SIA Questions

Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:20 am

SIA is planning to phase out those A310s by 2005. They have chosen to replace them with Jubilee 772s.

THe 764 and A330 were contenders for the replacement options, however SIA chose on growth and fleet commonality.
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RE: SIA Questions

Wed Sep 04, 2002 2:47 am

Re: Replacement of A310s.
From what I am aware, SIA considered several options. The A332 was one but it was dropped because its range was too long, wingspan too wide, and overall it was too heavy an aircraft to do regional routes. Airbus offered the proposed shrink A300-500 but SQ was unimpressed, much for the same reasons. The A321 was considered but it was dropped because it was a narrowbody. I'm not sure if the 767 models were seriously considered, but SQ never purchased the earlier 767 models partly because their ULD configurations were not compatible with SQ's hub operations at SIN.

Re: B747-400s
SQ already has the first four (9VSMA-SMD) on the market and you can expect them to try and downsize the fleet in the next few years, either by sales or leases. A number of their 744s are leased, so they have a relatively easy way to downsize the fleet if they wish to.

Re: Route Expansion
SQ launched two North American routes (SIN-AMS-ORD and SIN-HKG-LAS) in relatively quick succession, and Baldy (whoops... Dr Cheong) has publicly stated these will be the last new North American destinations for some time. SQ's current focus will be to make these two routes profitable and concentrate on the launch of nonstop A340-500 services, initially to LAX.

SQ has always had a "fantasy" route to Brazil via South Africa, but I don't see this materialising anytime soon.

Re: MAS/JAL to South America
No way MH's route is making money at the moment, not with Argentina's current economy. JAL has flights to Brazil because there is a huge ethnic Japanese population there.

I know this is slightly off topic, but when I was with SQ we had a fair number of Chinese passengers - usually all male groups - travelling from China to BKK on a Chinese carrier, BKK-SIN-KUL on SQ, and then KUL-EZE on MH, with an onward connecting flight to Colombia or Ecuador somewhere like that. Their travel documents were always in order so we had no reason to refuse carriage. Our suspicion is that they were being smuggled into the US via South America. I used to see at such groups at least once every two weeks. It's a horrible feeling to see these folks being smuggled and being powerless to do anything about it.

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