bwc1976
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Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 8:31 am

A couple months ago I went from LAX to SYD on an Air New Zealand 744 with some friends, which was probably my best flight ever. Now I'm considering a trip to England, and was wondering which airlines/planes from either LAX or DFW have footrests in coach like Air New Zealand does?

I know NZ flies from LAX to London as well, but I was kind of hoping to take a 777 (AA? BA?) out of DFW, as I live in Texas and these friends live in California, and meeting up in LA again would be a step backward for a flight going east, so it would make more sense for them to meet me at DFW and go from there.

 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:33 am

AA and BA both serve Gatwick (there are no flights to LHR) from DFW, all flights are operated by 777s (I think AA might have 1 flight on a 763). No airline has footrests across the Atlantic except for Virgin, which doesnt serve DFW. You can take CO to EWR then transfer to a Virgin flight and earn CO miles on all segments. My pick for a non-stop would be BA (better service), but the problem with BA is that you cannot earn AAdvantage miles on flights across the Atlantic.
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:49 am



Doesn't Kuwait Airways have footrests?
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:10 am

When I flew SR in summer of 2001 from ATL to ZRH to ATH and back, the ATL-ZRH and ZRH-ATL legs, operated by an A330-200, had footrests in coach. I was in coach by the way. I don't know if Swiss A330s still have them or if the MD-11s ever did, but that's a possibility. You could fly them through ZRH.
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:49 pm

just have your friends take UNITED LAX-LHR.
i know ual doesnt have footrest in coach but dont make them suffer by taking american out of DFW.

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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:46 pm

Bwc - if you are going LAX-LHR, and you liked NZ so much, you could always take them again - I am pretty sure they sell seats on that segment.

For those of you who haven't seen what NZ's footrest is, it isn't just one of those little things that folds down from the seat in front: http://www.airnz.co.nz/travel/ontheplane/statpage.jsp?pid=8014

Any other airlines use this design in economy class?

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bwc1976
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:25 pm

VirginFlyer: Interesting, that's not the footrest I remember, the ones we had folded down from the seats in front, same as a Greyhound bus. Still functional though.

Jcs17: How's Virgin's seat pitch, on the A340's out of LAX specifically? I did a search here about them before, and remember hearing not so nice things, but that they vary it depending on the demand of the particular route, and Miami was one of the worst.

 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:00 pm

Arrghhh! Pop-up ad! I havent flown Virgin, but I'm 99% sure that they offer footrests in Premium Economy. I have heard mixed comments about Virgin, but the good far out-weigh the bad. The service is supposedly better though than all US majors, and seat pitch is 33-34 in. I think. If you fly out of EWR instead of a tourist destination like MIA or LAX, seat pitch is bound to be better.
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 1:46 am

Unless it has changed, VS offer onyl 30/31 inches seat pitch. One of worst in system.
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 1:54 am

Bwa1976,

I flew on a Virgin A340 LAX-LHR. The pitch is about 30", and there are no footrests. The service is great, but if it's legroom you're after I wouldn't recommend Virgin or British Airways.

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MCMAHONSMR
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:35 am

You aren't going to get a footrest on a nonstop flight from the US to London unless you decide to take NZ again. The only time I have ever had a footrest in economy was on an Air Atlanta Icelandic flight from Dublin-Keflavik in 2000 on a Boeing 747-200 ex CX. Personally, I like AA's 777 service....you can do DFW-LGW with them or meet your friends and do DFW-LAX-LHR. If you're after some mileage then the latter obviously is the better choice.

I'm 6'3 and will never fly VS again....legroom is the worst in the industry at 31.

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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:59 am

I am talking about Virgin Economy Premier...not just Economy. Economy Premier on Virgin is so much better than just Economy. You have better legroom and a a more comfortable seat w/ a footrest.
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bwc1976
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:17 am

Mcmahonsmr: Now that's a thought, I just recently found out AA had a 777 flight from DFW to LAX, so I'm going to check that out in about a month when I meet up with my girlfriend (she's from San Diego) at Disneyland for her birthday. :-] The return flight is on a 763 though, because I wanted to go later in the afternoon. Still beats the usual MD80 (or 757 if I'm really lucky) to SAN though!

Jcs17: How much more does Premium Economy cost, on average? And what's the cheapest time of the year to go? I've been kind of spoiled by the legroom of American and Air New Zealand, but really want to try an A340 sometime.

VirginFlyer: I loved NZ except for the lack of PTV's which meant my enjoyment of the map display was interrupted by a bunch of movies. :-] Screens on the ceiling every few rows would have been ok, but it was just the one screen in the front of the cabin, and to sit close to it meant also sitting close to the families with babies. Actually some of the movies were good, but there were times during them I wished I could switch to the map. So it was way better than the typical US domestic flight, but there aren't as many non-stop competitors from LAX-SYD as there are from DFW/LAX-LHR/LGW/FRA, plus I'd like to try a 777 or A340 for a change.

Finally, how do the Lufthansa A340's from DFW to FRA compare? My sister's been on one but doesn't really pay attention to the differences between one plane and another.

 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:41 am

Air France has footrests in economy on their A330-200's.
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:58 am

AF has foot rests in economy on all 777's and 3 747-400's (EXA, ITF and one other I forget.
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:49 am

From what i remember, those AirNZ footrets were only installed on aircrafts that were owned by them.
AirNZ does have Foot-rests on ALL aircrafts, wether that be the 737-747..all have them.
I hear AirNZ's new A320 will ahve them.

AirNZ are introducing their new Cabin products in November...they will be installed by early 2003. AirNZ are making big changes!!!!
Their new long haul aircrafts will also be decided in NOV i hear, so alot of announcements will be made!

(This is all if QF dont absorbe us, and if everything goes to plan!)
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:16 am

Singapore Airlines has footrests on its flights to JFK-Frankfurt (B744) and Chicago-Amsterdam (B772) Smile
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:38 am

Air France has footrests on all aircraft with the new Tempo class: all 777's, all A330's, all A340's, and a small chunk of the 744 fleet.
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:15 pm

PIA (Pakistan International Airlines) have footrests on their 747-300 aircraft, on their flights from JFK to Manchester. They operate the 743's on Saturday's and Thursday's. They also have Personal TV's behind every seat in Coach. I thought i'd throw that name in since it fitted the topic  Big thumbs up

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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 7:15 pm

Why are footrests so important for you guys? Please explain, since I have never flown with an airline that offers footrests in economy. Is is really that comfortable?
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:41 pm

Air Canada has footrests in Economy in all their A330's and 340's. I don't know about the 767/747's though.
 
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RE: Footrests Across The Atlantic?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:48 pm

I heard some airliners give massages on board (Virgin?) - any change of a good food massage?  Smile