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Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 8:43 pm

I remember someone said to me that Air France will replace its entire B 767-300 Fleet with A 330-200s. Can anyone confirm that? Will these B 763s stay? How old are they?

Also, it was mentioned in a post that Air France ordered two B 747-400ERs. When will they be delivered? Also, are they still interested to become a launch customer for the B 747-400QLR?
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:20 pm

That's right ! New A330-200 will replace both A310 (no more in the fleet now !) and B767.
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:28 pm

Yes they did order 2 747-400ERF. I think they will be delivered very soon, but I am unsure of the date.
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:30 pm

That is correct.

I am not sure how old they are, they were actually just an interim measure, but market conditions actually kept them in the fleet longer.

F-GHGI will be the first of four 763s to leave the fleet in October. It is currently the only one with a different seating configuration (and different engines as well) from that of F-GHGF/G/H. Currently, Ougadougou (OUA), Philadelphia (PHL), Cincinatti (CVG), and Boston (BOS) are the 4 cities served by the 4 767-300s and when 'Golf India' leaves, only the stations in the US will see the 763.

Another will leave in November, another in February, and the last in March. Cincinnatti will have the honor of retiring the 763.

This is per the Air France head captain of the 767-300 pilots.

The following link: http://airtransportbiz.free.fr/AFsection.html has an interesting article on the 767-300 fleet.

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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:42 pm

A330's are supposed to replace the remaing 767's. I think they have already replaced the A310's.
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 4:39 am

I think Air France is the launch customer of the 744ER sieries. Did they order the frighter version or passenger version? I think they ordered both. As far as the XQLR is concerned nobody has ordered even a single one, I doubt Air France will want to order it right now, since it already has 773ER on order.
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 6:35 am

Hello,


The A330-200s will indeed replace the 767-300ERs and have helped phase the out the last remaining A310-300s earlier this year.

For those who are interested, I intended to release articles about the following fleets: A310, A330-200, A340, DC-10 and 747 in addition to other articles on the French airlines.



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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 6:38 am

Qantas is launch customer for the 744ER. AF ordered four freighter 744ER's. Problem is they didn't order enough 747-400's to begin with. The ex UTA (EXA, EXB) helped a bit but not to the extent that was needed. Now they find themselves stretching the 744, with one of the highest utilization rates in the world. That is one of the reasons for which they decided to repair F-GITA after it took a swim in the Tahiti lagoon circa 1993. It was faster to repair it than to order a new one directly from Boeing, and they desperately needed to return it to service to fulfill capacity requirements.
 
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 6:47 am

Ben88,

He's talking about the launch customer for the 744QLR which is currently unknown.
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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 7:41 am

Hello,

Well Ben88, there were enough 747-400 orders in the early 1990s... But no money to pay them!


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RE: Air France To Replace Its B 767-300s With A 330s?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 9:10 am

I thought they leased two B 747-400 ERs. Pax version......

So where will these B 767s go?

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