Dash8King
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"Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:05 pm

We all knew this was coming. I think it is good for Air Canada now that they are allowed to stop serving destinations that they aren't making money on.

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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Sun Sep 08, 2002 2:50 pm

Anyone know how Air Canada is doing on it's YYZ-MSP route (Jazz a/c)? I flew it about three yrs. ago and the flight was pretty full but I haven't heard anything lately.

There is some strong competition from NW with MSP being their main hub for servicing Canada. I believe they currently serve 9 communities in Canada from MSP, more than any other NW hub (DTW serves 5 cities in Canada).

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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Sun Sep 08, 2002 5:24 pm

"I believe there will be a transitional period for smaller communities," Mr. Collenette said. Although the government is "quite concerned" about the reductions, he believes other airlines will step in and fill the void.


What other airlines?
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 1:15 pm

Well maybe somebody will start an airline and it could serve those cities until it ceases operations?
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 1:24 pm

The 3rd tier commuter carriers such as Air Georgian or Central Mountain Air.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 1:28 pm

Yeah I thought they would go in with there Beach's.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 2:30 pm

That is Beech. Not Beach.
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 8:58 pm

Maybe Dash8King is talking about beaches, not Beech's.

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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Mon Sep 09, 2002 10:37 pm

Haha yes thanks Lymanm I saw that after I posted it. Thanks Yyz717.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:15 am

Hey, they had to cut somewhere in order to have a/c for their new Atlanta-Montreal service that starts up in a few months. Since they (Air Canada) are no longer going to have to serve these towns as part of the Canadian merger, why keep service there if the demand really isn't there? Look at Alaska for instance; many of these small isolated communities depend on not Alaska Airlines/Horizion, but on little operators (often times one man airlines) to provide air service in order to get supplies, medical care, and even to connect on to an Alaska Airlines flight. Someone will take up the slack, it just may take a little while to convince an airline to do it, but I think Transport Canada will have to subsidize whoever will serve these cities. Sort of like the U.S.'s Essential Air Service program does.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:50 am

AC is not Canada's national carrier per se. It is a publicly traded company with a profit mandate. All routes ultimately must pay their own way.

Marginal airports have know about the 2003 moratorium for 3 years and have had ample opportunity to market the flights to their local communities. Clearly, these local communities have spoken....and they have indicated they cannot support the service.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:29 am

It's unfortunate for the residents of those communities, but if there's sufficient demand, the canceled flights will be replaced in due course -- if not by a discount carrier or third-tier service, then by ground transport to the closest available airport.

 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Tue Sep 10, 2002 4:16 am

The Nfld. routes...well, I imagine Provincial AL can use their Saab 340s to good order now......
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:19 pm

SRBMOD what are you talking about. First off the communitites that are losing service are not nor was there ever any intent to operate a CRJ there. YUL-ATL is a CRJ route.On another note, we have a few CRJs that are not being fully utilized right now as not enough pilots are qualified to fly them(should be rectified very soon).Third tier can use 1900ds into those places . much better than putting the Dash8 in. Transborder routes are doing quite well. Although I can't speak about MSP....BWI, PHL,CLE and other Jazz destinations are quite full consistently.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:05 am

Crj 900,

My comment is based more on the fact that when a new city is served, usually there are aircraft type swaps on some routes, like say several flights that use CRJs to a certain city might lose a few CRJ flights and are replaced with other aircraft types.
 
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RE: "Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"

Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:02 pm

It looks as if Provincial and Air Lab are already picking up the slack in NFLD/Labrador. Hopefully someone will come along to serve Yarmouth and Stephenville.

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