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Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:20 am

Hi, I was wonder which of the smaller planes being used by airlines today (anything smaller than a DC-9, for example the CRJ, ERJ, ATR, BAe 146, Dash-8, etc.) have enough space in overheads and under the seats for normal-size carry-ons (the size that's allowed on DC-9's, 737's, and up), and which ones have you drop them off with a guy that puts them on right as you get on the plane? I've always heard stories of the latter, but from some of the photos I've seen, they seem to still have at least some overhead space. I'd be curious to try some of these little planes sometime, but want to be sure ahead of time what the policy will be. Also, which ones do or don't have seat width and pitch as good as a DC-9, 737, etc.?

 
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:43 am

Of all the planes mentioned the only one that has real overhead space is the Avro/Bae146. There are a few overheads onboard though that resemble the overheads of RJs and those are the bins under the wings. No RJ or even mainline small jet can come close to the space and comfort that the Mesaba Avros offer. Our Avros are the RJ85 model and can accomodate up to 100 passengers in a high density configuration. The a/c is a tad wider than the DC9 and is roughly as long as the 737-100 was. Due to scope limitations iwht the NW pilots our cabin has 69 seats, thus affording extra space and a FC cabin with 16 seats. The roomiest RJ in the sky and the only RJ with a REAL first class. So, unless you're onboard with 68 other passengers who have brought a months supply of luggage onboard with them (which is usual) you won't have to gate check your luggage on the Avro/BAE146.


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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:30 am

AZJ- I looked at the website at the seat map of the Avro, and I was shocked. This is Northwest/Mesaba you're talking about, right. 19" width by 33" pitch!! That's about the same as first class on the DC-9s. I honestly was expecting to see 17"X31" that is so common on the DC-9s, but I see that you weren't exaggerating at all. Hopefully, in December I'll get my first ride on a BAe-146.
 
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:46 am

I've always thought that the 146 offers the best Y seat in the sky. Better than any large jet!
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:36 am

Why would I have any reason to exagerate? The Avro has the largest seat and most comfortable cabin in the entire NW fleet. The FC seats are even the largest in the fleet, being the same size as the 757 seats.



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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:36 am

ACA's J41's are horrid! I hate flying on them. I love thier CRJ's though! No overhead,though.
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:32 pm

AZJ- You wouldn't have any reason to exaggerate. I just didn't believe that there is a commuter plane out there that offers so much room.

Can anyone tell me how comfortable United Express' BAe 146s and CRJs are?
 
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:03 pm

ACA's CRJ's are very nice. 2 - 2 seating,but no overheads. There is a flight attendant and a lav.Service is beverage with beer,no liquor. The f/a sits in back of the cockpit door and faces rearward. They're very quiet and comfortable.
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:09 pm

I would agree, Avro/146 I flew one last year from Dfw to Memphis last year and was shocked. Felt just like a mainline jet and those seats were impressive great Jetliner.
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RE: Interior Room On Various Commuter/regional Planes?

Wed Sep 11, 2002 1:01 am

Considering the fact that the Avro/146 is twice the size and weight of the typical RJ - the a/c shouldn't be considered an RJ - but a small mainline jet. Especially since it offeres ammenities that no toher small jet offers, except maybe the baby DC9.


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