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Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 7:42 am

Are airline pilots ever charged after fatal crash? If not, why not?
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 10:08 am

Are airline pilots ever charged after fatal crash? If not, why not?

Why so? Just because the plane crashes, doesn't make the pilot a criminal...unless he was drunk or blatently negligent. Pilot error IMO is just error.
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 10:23 am

They will be scheduled to appear at a hearing in some cases to find out what happened in the flight deck to determine whether they should be charged, or fined or Whatever.
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 11:12 am

So far as I know, the first crew to be arrested and charged in an aircraft accident was in October 1979 when a Swissair DC8-62 landed long on runway 15L in ATH and broke up off the end of the runway.
The crew was charged with negligent homicide and jailed. Believe they were released a short while later after many protests by aircarrier unions worldwide.

For those that are unfamiliar with the old airport at ATH, runway 33R was normally used for landings, but due to southeastery winds runway 15L was used on the night in question, the runway was wet, and the aircraft hydroplaned and was unable to stop on the very slippery runway end.
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:43 pm

The pilot of an Ansett NZ Dash 8 that crashed near Palmerston North in NZ was charged with police, and as I understand it, it was the first time when the cockpit flight recorder transcripts were used as evidence against the pilot. Also as I recall, the case was thrown out (fortunately!).

 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:48 pm

werent the SQ pilots charged for their crash? the ones who went to take off on the wrong runway.

if those HP pilots who were drunk crashed they should be charged.




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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:26 pm

Why shouldn´t pilots be held liable for their mistakes? If a bus driver smashes a pedestrian, he probably also only "made a mistake" - and he might be responsible of recklessly killing a person.

The pilots of the Contact Air Dash 8 operating for Lufthansa which crashed in Paris in 1993 were convicted. I believe at least the captain had to serve some jail time.

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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:04 pm

While there might be occasions in which criminal charges could conceivably be brought (in the event of negligence, perhaps) don't forget that action only becomes reasonable to pursue if the crew survives. In the case of a fatal accident, that often isn't the case.
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:23 pm

Ya don't say, Backfire!  Insane
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:39 pm

In your rush to be sarcastic NZ767 (and I can appreciate that you think I'm just stating the obvious) I think you're missing the subtle underlying comment.  Insane

Go back and read the original question. It implies that you don't hear about prosecution very often.

The question is why: Is it because there's no justification for such action? Or is it simply because you can't practically prosecute a dead crew?

There's a big difference.
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:45 pm

Well I took the topic heading to mean after a fatal crash where passengers and cabin crew have been killed, but the pilots are still alive.
Quite simple really!
 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:51 am

i dont think you can compare and pilot to a bus driver, a pilot has thousands and thousands of hours training. bus drivers dont have that much
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:57 am

yeah but-

there are 2/3 people in the cockpit, one at the wheel of a bus
if one person in the cockpit dies the other one can take over and fly safely, its hard to get a dead bus driver out of the seat at 65mph. also a pilot can fall asleep (i mean its not a good thought) for a few minutes and if its on autopilot the plane won't be in a million billion pieces but not so with a bus.

 
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RE: Are Airline Pilots Ever Charged After Fatal Crash?

Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:02 am

I dont think you can compare and pilot to a bus driver, a pilot has thousands and thousands of hours training. bus drivers dont have that much

What does that have to do with anything? Negligence is negligence, regardless of the training-or lack of it. If a pilot with a 4 year degree kills someone, versus an $8.00 an hour bus driver, what entitles the pilot to get away with-and let's call it what it its-murder?

If anything, using your argument, then pilots should be held to a HIGHER degree of accountability for that very reason-they are/were "better trained", had "more skills" and so on. So they should've known what they were doing.

That Southwest pilot that parked at the Chevron station in Burbank should not only have been fired, but after his stay at the hospital (assuming he went), should've been taken straight to Twin Towers in Downtown LA and booked for attempted murder due to gross negligence.