edwardle
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CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 3:38 pm

Hello, first post here for me

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the CX cadet program... has anyone received an interview or gone through their training process? What can I expect from going throught the screening process?

Lastly, and more importantly, I don't want to step on any toes during this application process, are CX pilots still upset at management from what has happened last year? How do CX pilots now view the new recruits that are upcoming through the cadet program?

Thanks very much in advance,
Edward - vancouver, BC
 
Rai
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 3:45 pm

I think there are three qualifications:

1. HK resident status

2. College degree

3. Perfect vision

I was seriously looking into it right after college, but I fail on numbers 1 and 3.

Were you accepted into the program? If so, very lucky you!
 
edwardle
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 3:56 pm

My vision is not perfect, but from what I understand it doesn't need to be. Or does it?

My parents are born in HK so under article 24 sections (1), (2) and (3) i qualify to have permanent resident status.

As for the education, i have a B.Sc. and a diploma in engineering so I'm hoping to apply once i get my PPL. There have been a handful of people that have trained at my airport in vancouver that have gone through the program who are now cruise pilots for CX.

There is apparently a book written by a CX captain about what the company looks for during their hiring process, does anyone know what it is? Thanks for reading
 
CXJoe
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:26 pm

some cadets wear glasses so it's a case-by-case situation. a number of cadets do not hold a degree.

that book about interviews with Cathay is meant for direct entries so it's not essential reading.

one book you should read and attempt to understand (if you have no previous experience) is by Davies.

lastly the recruitment ban at Cathay excludes cadets.
 
CXJoe
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:47 pm

put the book name in brackets and it didn't show, sorry.

the book is Handling The Big Jets by D.P. Davies. there should also be a few books you can have a flick through in the aero section of your uni library.
 
SOHK
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Tue Sep 17, 2002 7:50 pm

One question about this program. If you is unsucessful in going through all the interviews, can you apply again?
Say, if one apply before going to University and is unsucessful, can he or she try again after they complete a degree?

SOHK
 
edwardle
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:47 am

SOHK, i don't see why not... i think they'd see your interest in the program from a re-application. Is that what you're going through right now?
 
fspilot747
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:07 am

Edwardle: One of our members here, "Cx_flyboy" went through the cadet program and currently flies the 747. You may want to talk to him.

-FSP
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:24 am

I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747.
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
edwardle
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 7:00 am

FSP, i tried emailing him, but i guess he's busy *shrug*
 
slawko
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 7:57 am

Yes the labour problems still exist at CX, and the cadet program, while aimed at getting "local" talent into the company a majority of entrants are considered to be "poor" pilots due to there limited experiance, and are not looked upon very highly by those who are hired off the street. Expect to be a cruise pilot for a lot longer then the manditory 2/3 years before you get considered for an F/O position..
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
 
n949wp
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 11:36 am

CX_flyboy did flew the 744 as S/O, and is now flying the 777 as F/O. I know him personally, so I can verify that.

'949
 
SOHK
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 4:13 pm

Yes, I still have one year of secondary school. And I'm not sure what my chance will be if I apply when I finish secondary school. But if I can apply twice, it wouldn't hurt to try it next year.

SOHK
 
edwardle
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:58 pm

SOHK, i just got this email from cathay's cadet program... sounds like u can just keep applying till the cows come home

Dear Mr Lee,

We are pleased to inform you that we accept application all year round. Should you need to find out more information, you can visit our website on www.cathaypacific.com

Thank you for your interest in the Cadet Pilot Programme.

Kind regards,
Belinda Chan
Flight Crew Recruitment Specialist (Cadet Pilot)
 
CXJoe
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 7:36 pm

Please correct me if I'm wrong, Slawko:

The length of time cadets spend as an SO ranges from four years to a year and a half. Yes, it's generally longer than what the direct entries have to go through but I don't think the average cadet wannabe is in a position to choose whether to apply to the cadet programme or as a direct entry.

As for the number of times you can apply, do it as many times as you want to but generally give it a year before your next attempt as you'd need time to figure out what it is that they're not happy with and do something about it!
 
Airbus_A340
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 7:40 pm

N949WP is right, Cx_flyboy used to be S/O on the 744 but now is a Junior F/O on the 772 and 773.

Singapore_Air, why did you say "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747. " ? Did you not think he was telling the truth when he said he flew the 744 before?

Trevor
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SOHK
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 7:41 pm

Okay, thanks,

Edwardle, did you just e-mailed CX or did you write to CX? Becuase I also need to ask them about education qualifications obtained overseas comparing to the Education standards in HK.

SOHK
 
n949wp
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 8:38 pm

SOHK,

I don't think you have to worry about your overseas education qualifications, as long as your school is a legitimate institution, though I think you pretty much must have a Bachelor's degree to start out with nowadays.

'949
 
CX Flyboy
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Wed Sep 18, 2002 11:34 pm

Edwardle,

I didn't get an e-mail from you, unless I accidentally deleted it thinking it was one of the hundres of junk mails I get!!! Sorry.
Send me an e-mail and I will try to reply in the next few days when I have a day off.

CX flyboy.

Singapore_air,

What makes you think I don't fly?
 
edwardle
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Thu Sep 19, 2002 2:42 pm

CX flyboy, i emailed you again, did you get it?
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Thu Sep 19, 2002 3:58 pm

"Did you not think he was telling the truth when he said he flew the 744 before?"

I said, "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747." Is that past or present tense? Voila my dear.

"What makes you think I don't fly?"

What makes you say I didn't think you fly? I said, "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747." One difference as you know is that the 747 has four engines while the 777 has two. Big difference.
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
 
CX Flyboy
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Thu Sep 19, 2002 4:28 pm

The 777 and 744 are both wide-bodied jets made by the same manufacturer and come with 3 engine choices, in each case, one from Rolls, one from Pratt&Whitney, and one from GE. In the case of the 773 both have very similar seating capacities and are both capable of long-haul flights and some airlines are choosing to buy one over the other, indicating they do compete for similar markets. Both have very similar cockpit layouts and any pilot of either could step into the other and fly the thing without any previous training. In that respect, NOT a big difference.
 
Airbus_A340
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RE: CX Cadet Program

Thu Sep 19, 2002 10:47 pm

Singapore_Air, from the style you wrote it seemed you doubted Cx_flyboy was a pilot. I know it may niot be true, but that's what your post read to me.

Besides, from what CX_flyboy has said, the two aircraft are relativley similar!

Trevor
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