bigphilnyc
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LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 6:17 am

I rose from bed this morning and I could hear by the sound of the planes that they were landing on Runway 31 at La Guardia. I called LGA ATIS and was surprised that they were using the Localizer approach. It's my favorite approach and I haven't gotten to enjoy that while ever spotting form my infamous "dock" across the bay from LGA.

I ate and got dressed and walked the few blocks to the dock. Obviously with my luck, the SECOND I got to the dock, they switched runways. Bastards in the tower must have seen me coming. I bet they had a good laugh. lol

But then, they started using Runway 13 for both departures and landings. Turns out this is very entertaing for a spotter, especially when I am on a dock in an elevated position while planes landing and deparintg are BOTH facing my direction.

Using River Visual Approach, I saw as all kinds of planes making that big turn from the Hudson, many turning early or late, making sometime very steep drops and such. I loved it.

But the interesting part is, with all the traffic at LGA, because of planes departing so frequently, landing planes had go arounds literally about every 15 minutes. It was weird.

Also, reminding me of pictures i've seen of Kai Tak, there were planes touching down at the beginning of 13 jsut as a planes was lifting off. Weird thing to see. I think it's kind of dangerous at an airport with the congestion that LGA has, along with the short 7,000 foot runways.

I saw a DL767 approaching as an Air Tran 717 was lining up for t/o. The 767 was dropping fast, and the curve of the wings were intense. The 717 was late it hitting the gas, and I expect the 767 to go around, but it seemed like both planes had wheels on the ground at the same time, avoiding each other by maybe 3,000 feet on the ground.

I know I'm babbling, but this was exciting to me.
Phil Derner Jr.
 
Rai
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 6:22 am

Saw the same thing too at Planeview Park when I went for a run this morning. I don't know what they're using right now.

I was gonna call the JFK ATIS, but it isn't working. I was hoping to head over there this afternoon for some spotting. Maybe tomorrow.
 
FrequentFlier
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 6:23 am

LGA is one of those airports where the controllers should get hazard pay!

Seriously, if you're driving over the Whitestone Bridge at 9:30 at night, the landing lights are stacked up with at least 5-10 planes as far as the eye can see. It's crazy how quickily they land planes there.

If you think about it, LGA is also a very dangerous airport because of its proximity to two things: The water and populated areas. Not only is it almost right across the street from Shea Stadium, but anyone who's every landed at LGA knows that it either seems like you're going to come down in Flushing Bay or on the Grand Central Pkwy.

Ah, the "beauty" of LGA!
 
trickijedi
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:49 am

That's exactly one of the reasons why LGA is LGA.
Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
 
Alitalia744
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 12:42 pm

Heya guys...

where is this place for LGA? Is there a way to go w/o a car? I live in the cty and LOVE planes, usually go to JFK and spot from T1's cafeteria area because its the only way I get to spot...

The good old A train out to JFK is always a joy! LOL.

Thanks for the answers,

Gus
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Rai
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Sun Sep 22, 2002 12:54 pm

Gus: Are you Greek? Milas Hellinikah?

How familiar are you with Northern Queens? I can give you the address of the place I go to for LGA spotting.

And do any of you guys know if the JFK ATIS is working? I tryied calling it today and it doesn't seem to work. Anyone else have the same results?
 
Alitalia744
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:51 am

Rai,

Nai eimai ellinas...yennithika edw omws! Esu?

I don't have a car tho is it possible to go there to spot w/o one?

-Gus
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Rai
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Mon Sep 23, 2002 5:13 am

Kai ewo..alla, then boro na milas kala...

Whatever that meant! My Greek really sucks! I haven't used it in over ten years.

Yes, it is possible to get to Planeview Park without a car. Usually, you can take the 7, R, V, E and F trains to 74th street and Roosevelt Avenue station. There, you can take the Q47. I can't tell you what bus stop to get off at as I live really close to La Guardia and just walk there. I can check it out. I believe the Q33 stops around that area too. When do you plan on going spotting? Wanna meet up sometime? My e-mail address is in my profile.

What part of the city are you coming from anyways?

 
jcxp15
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Mon Sep 23, 2002 6:02 am

Hey Gus:

If you need to get to Planeview Park from the city...
Take the 4/5/6 train or any train that stops at 125th Street, to 125th Street. Get off there, and take the M60 to LGA airport. You can't miss planeview park. Get off where the landing lights are.
If you want that spot where you can see RWY13/31, take the 7 train out to Main Street Flushing, and then take the Q65 towards college point to like 29 or 30th Av. Walk down to the sanitation place. Right before the sanitation plane, on the left will be this concrete "factory" enter those gates, and make the first right.. You'll then come to a dock, which overlooks LGA.
You should prolly e-mail Phil though if you're going out there: pdernerjr@hotmail.com
 
Alitalia744
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:05 am

Jcxp/Rai,

Thanks guys for the info. Like I said, I usually go to JFK to spot from T1. I can't wait for AZ to fly their first 777 in...

But I've never gone to LGA to spot. I'll try the info you guys gave me one of these weekends for sure. I always loved something about LGA - maybe its short runways/traffic levels.

I've only flown out of LGA 3 times (AA, US, Airtran), as I usually end up flying outta JFK.

 Smile
G
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Alaskaairlines
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Mon Sep 23, 2002 4:48 pm

That would be a fun place to visit!

-Dmitry
 
bigphilnyc
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RE: LGA Rwy 13 For Departure And Takeoff

Tue Sep 24, 2002 1:05 am

I don't recommend anyone try to find the dock without myself or Jcxp as an escoprt. You risk hurting yourself or being brought up on trespassing charges.

It's a great place to spot. Just email me at pdernerjr@hotmail.com if you are interested.

But come on, let's stay on topic. Anyon have anything to say about LGA using 13 for t/o and departure?
Phil Derner Jr.