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AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:38 am

American Airlines will launch seven all-new routes this winter. The new services are not an expansion, but a reallocation of equipment to markets with more profit potnetial.

Starts 1 November 2002:
Miami-Punta Cana, daily

Starts 15 December 2002:
Miami-Charlotte, daily
Raleigh-San Juan, daily
Boston-Las Vegas, execept Tuesday

Starts 16 December 2002:
JFK-La Romana, DR, Saturdays
JFK-San Jose, Costa Rica, Mondays and Saturdays

Starts 21 December 2002:
LaGuardia-Ft. Meyers, Saturdays

Starts 3 March 2003:
Raleigh-San Jose; daily
Miami-Las Vegas; daily

American will also increase capacity on the following markets on 15 December:


JFK to Providenciales +3 weekly; total 6
JFK to Punta Cana +1 weekly; total 5
JFK to Saint Thomas +6 weeklies; total 13
JFK to Saint Maarten +4 weeklies; total 11

Miami to Santiago, DR +7 weekly; total 14
Miami to Hartford +7 weekly; total 14
Miami to Toronto +1 weekly; total 15
Miami to St. Maarteen +4 weekly; total 11
Miami to Belize City +4 weekly; total 11
Miami to Detroit +7 weekly; total 14

The announcements are reaffirming AA's commitment to ongoing expansion in both South Florida and New York City at the unfortunate expense of other service reductions.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:44 am

Oh yeah, and Boston-Cancun weekend service starts 1 February. Still to early to early to tell, but rumours have it too possibly look for any combination of Miami-St. Kitts & Nevis, Liberia, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, San Jose, and/or Kansas City. AA is going to be focusing alot on leisure markets in 2003. All of these new routes except MIA-CLT and RDU-SJC are pure leisure routes.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:51 am

What kind of plane will they be using on the LGA/RSW route?

AA 777
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:07 am

What equipment is AA planning to use on the RDU-SJU route, I guess they will be using the 738. I dont really see potential for this route but the AA managers know more than I do on this matter. US Airways does well on the CLT-SJU route because CLT is a hub for US and most pax originate in other cities and Charlotte is a much bigger city.
By the way is AA keeping its 2 daily STL-SJU flights?
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:10 am

I think I saw somewhere that it is being scaled back to 1x daily in the winter not for sure though.
Thx,
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Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:11 am

BTW, Chepos how are loads on that flight?
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:13 am

I forgot to mention that this RDU-SJU flight has been operated before back when AA had a much bigger operation at Raleigh, I thinkk that the flight at one point was operated with a DC-10.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:17 am

man i'd like to see the 3rd SJU-PHL flt reinstated, and possibly a 4th MIA-PHL flt.
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:21 am

I really dont have information on how the STL-SJU route is doing, but back when TWA operated the route the airline was happy with how the route was doing. Most pax on the route originate in the West Coast or some other midwestern city, whcih sort of creates a conflict for the DFW-SJU route which is suppose to serve that purpose.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:22 am

What is AA's route network out of San Juan to the United States like? I know it is pretty big, but does anybody have the frequencies/destinations?

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Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:27 am

A little off of the topic but does AA have a daily PHL-DEN flight?
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:29 am

This is Only to the mainland
AA nonstop destinations from SJU
-Miami
-FLL
-Tampa
-Orlando
-RDU (starting 12/15/02)
-IAD
-BWI
-Newark
-JFK
-Hartford
-Boston
-Chicago
-St. Louis
-DFW
-Philadelphia
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:36 am

WoW!!!! This is another fanstantic news as for AA and they are made added new route from BOS-CUN by first-ever nonstop for weekend flight. Also, I do knew that DL were already will be start new nonstop from ATL-LIR flight in November 2002 subject pending government approvals. I think this is great to hear as for AA were stepped up more flight out of MIA too. I knew that were people are coming back of the business after 9/11 by recovery. Well, later!!
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:37 am

AA-STL,

No they don't.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:40 am

Here are the aircraft types in case people wonder.,,,,

Starts 1 November 2002:
Miami-Punta Cana, daily (757)

Starts 15 December 2002:
Miami-Charlotte, daily (MD-80)
Raleigh-San Juan, daily (738)
Boston-Las Vegas, execept Tuesday (757)

Starts 16 December 2002:
JFK-La Romana, DR, Saturdays (757)
JFK-San Jose, Costa Rica, Mondays and Saturdays (757)

Starts 21 December 2002:
LaGuardia-Ft. Meyers, Saturdays (MD-80)

Starts 3 March 2003:
Raleigh-San Jose; daily (738)
Miami-Las Vegas; daily (757)

American will also increase capacity on the following markets on 15 December:


JFK to Providenciales +3 weekly; total 6
JFK to Punta Cana +1 weekly; total 5
JFK to Saint Thomas +6 weeklies; total 13
JFK to Saint Maarten +4 weeklies; total 11

Miami to Santiago, DR +7 weekly; total 14
Miami to Hartford +7 weekly; total 14
Miami to Toronto +1 weekly; total 15
Miami to St. Maarteen +4 weekly; total 11
Miami to Belize City +4 weekly; total 11
Miami to Detroit +7 weekly; total 14 (MD-80)

You also forgot new weekend service on Boston-Cancun (757) beginning Feb .1st
The ones that are blank I do not know what a/c
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:42 am

Hey BA,

Isn't not goes chance to fly nonstop from PHL-DEN flight on AA and already opreate by the nonstop from PHL-DEN by UA/US Airways. I'm sure that is one as for myself. And isn't that was doing growth more with the passengers were goes on the flight. Soon, Frontier Airlines will be chance as for nonstop from PHL-DEN flight, don't you know about this one?!?!? Please let me know, BA!!!

Regards,

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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:48 am

More ways for me to get back to my favorite place in the world. The D.R.

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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:51 am

ScottysAir,

Frontier has been looking into many destinations and the CEO of Frontier has been asked several times about future destinations and they simply cannot comment. So we will find out when they announce it.

All I know is PHL has been looked at in the past by Frontier. I hope they serve it one day, they possibly will.

But I wouldn't look at it too incredibly soon as currently Frontier is focusing on leisure markets. You will see new leisure destinations and expanded Mexico service for the time being.

Regards
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:07 am

Thanks for putting the aircraft types PSU, here are the ones for the expanded MIA services:

Miami to Santiago, DR +7 weekly; total 14 (738)
Miami to Hartford +7 weekly; total 14 (738)
Miami to Toronto +1 weekly; total 15 (738)
Miami to St. Maarteen +4 weekly; total 11 (752)
Miami to Belize City +4 weekly; total 11 (738)
Miami to Detroit +7 weekly; total 14 (MD-80)

In addition, JFK-SJO is both a 752 and A300. A300 on Saturdays, 752 on Mondays. In addition, FLL-LGA is getting a fourth M80 flight (total of 13 daily Miami-LaGuardia runs).
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:08 am

Thanks for putting the aircraft types PSU, here are the ones for the expanded MIA services:

Miami to Santiago, DR +7 weekly; total 14 (738)
Miami to Hartford +7 weekly; total 14 (738)
Miami to Toronto +1 weekly; total 15 (738)
Miami to St. Maarteen +4 weekly; total 11 (752)
Miami to Belize City +4 weekly; total 11 (738)
Miami to Detroit +7 weekly; total 14 (MD-80)

In addition, JFK-SJO is both a 752 and A300. A300 on Saturdays, 752 on Mondays. In addition, FLL-LGA is getting a fourth M80 flight (total of 13 daily Miami-LaGuardia runs).
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:11 am

PSU.DTW.SCE,

I do knew that one as for nonstop from RDU-SJC flight as for last time with Midway Airlines by B737-700 and now, AA were made another new nonstop from RDU-SJC flight as for B737-800. I do exactly was way remembered that one as for before of last year of 2001. After that Midway Airlines is out of business again now. Oh well!  Sad

BA,

I surely that will hope chance as for nonstop from PHL-DEN flight as for near of the future. I do already know how is they were doing well at my FLL airport as for nonstop to DEN by double daily roundtrip for Frontier. It is at the terminal 3 by near of UA ticket counter. I did actually were went visits at the FLL airport to see my friends there. So hope this is your helps. Thanks, BA!!

Regards,

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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:11 am

i think we will see Frontier in PHL within a year
as for AA flying from PHL-DEN, they do not, but they said that if the UA/US merger went through that they would, since UA would have a monopoly on the route.
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:14 am

WoW!  Wow! This is another fourth flight from FLL-LGA. I do knew that was only flight been full as for too many passengers onboard of the aircraft itself. When will be starts as for fourth flight from FLL-LGA? Can you please tell us about exactly were goes on as for next either way to do something itself.
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:23 am

Here they grow again...

A third daily Miami-Bogota will be added. A daily 767-300ER. It will operate, however, only 15Dec02 through 30Jan03. Would not be surprised to see it become permanent, however.
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:32 am

Uh-Oh!! Here it go another grow more with the flight by MIA-BOG the third flight been added nonstop. I was not too surprised as for me with the AA keep stepped up with the more flight by MIA hub. Well, later!
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:35 am

For some reason they had it on AA.com thats the reason why I was wondering and yes it was Non-stop
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:36 am

SJC-RDU surprises me in some ways, because it was a miserable failure for Midway, but doesn't in others. AA has the advantage of a stronger FF following out here (I know at least 5 people who have flown SJC-STL-RDU-STL-SJC) in the past year, so the passengers are coming from somewhere. However, I don't see how this route brings in the big business money they need.
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:03 am

BA-




Off topic a little, but is Hartford being considered for future Frontier growth? I know PVD was being considered for a Boston reliever, but is BDL anywhere on the list?
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:32 am

Is history repeating itself for AA @ RDU? I wonder what strategy AA will use on RDU-SJU and RDU-SJC, both failed routes for JI.
 
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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:36 am

All this expansion at MIA -- great news! However I would like to see a little more equipment diversity (rather than the same old AA 757 and MD80) though the 738s are pretty...

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RE: AA 9 New Routes: JFK-SJO/LRM; RDU-SJU/SJC...

Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:56 am

I would like to see a little more equipment diversity (rather than the same old AA 757 and MD80)

Diversity? We get plenty of equipment diversity at MIA:

On a winter Saturday MIA (which AA will operate 246 daily departures, including, for the first time ever, 200 mainline flights) will see the following from MIA:

73 737-800s
53 757-200s
2 767-200s
11 767-300s
7 777-200s
21 A300-600s
43 ATR-72s
3 ATR-42s
28 MD-80s
5 MD-83s

That's pretty diverse if you ask me. Everything from mainline excepet the soon to be gone Fokkers.
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