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Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 5:30 am

I was once talking to an Air Canada FA who mentioned that on some CRJ flights the company will staff the jet with 2 FA's. I know that some European airlines that operate the ERJ-145 and the CRJ will staff their aircraft with two Flight Attendants. Are the rules different in some countries where they are required to have 2 FA's on board. In the US it's one FA for 50 seats. If anyone could shed some light I would appreciate it.

Thanks.....ChautauquaFA
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 5:49 am

I know on the European airlines the level of service on an RJ is much higher than in the US. I read a trip report in some magazine that they did a beverage service followed by a meal with wine, another beverage service, duty free and finally a chocolate service, all on a 75 minute flight. Can you imagine that here.
I bet that Air Canada's service level must be higher than US carriers.

I read that Eagle is going to serve snacks on the BOS-LGA-DCA shuttle, does anyone know if this is a bistro type snack?

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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:29 am

One to serve the passenger and one to serve the pilots  Big grin
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:34 am

Meechy36:

That happened to me on Swiss, I few on a 90 minute flight from Basel to Manchester and had a full meal with beer (or wine or champagne), followed by a selection of chocolates!

Excellent service.

Even on the 40 minute flight from Munich to Basel they served a light snack and I still got offered Beer, Wine or Champagne.

Oh and they had two FAs on the ERJ145
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:42 am

All the airlines I've flown with CRJ's had 2 FA's:

-Southern Winds
-Rio Sul
-Air Canada
-Tyrolean
-Crossair

It's the first time I hear that they fly with 1 FA too....
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ'

Wed Sep 25, 2002 7:09 am

In Australia Kendell Airlines operated CRJ-200s with 2 FAs. QantasLink/Eastern operate Dh8-300s with 2 FAs (99% of the time) and Skywest operate 46 seat Fokker 50s with 2 FAs. In Australia the rule is 1 FA to 36 pax. Some of teh above aircraft may only operate with 1 FA if there is less than 36 pax and the company has been endorsed to operate such an aircraft with 1 FA.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:35 am

In Canada you need more than 1 FA for every 50 passengers. Not sure of the ratio though. In Europe the rules as well are different.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:12 pm

The rule in Europe is one FA for 50 Pax. The 2nd FA is there because of the service on board need 2 FAs.
I got a friend flying for Brit Air and there is only 1 FA even if there is a full meal service (ei Lyon to Munich flying time 50mn), He have to be very organized to perform it and he does it.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:16 pm

I flought in a Air Nostrum CRJ with 2 FA's. By the way, I found service better than Iberia A320's.
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:16 pm

I fleew a ERJ 135 and 145 with Continental back in JANUARY (LGA-CLE-LGA).
The service offered no food, just drinks. One FA.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:21 pm

LH, OS and NG use two FA's on CRJ cause they also offer business class. I think this is the reason to have two FA's onboard.

 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:21 pm

On Air France (Operated by Britair) CRJ100s I've flown a lot of times this year, just one FA.

Only once did we have two, but it seemed to me one was in training - and no jumpseat for her.

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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 7:55 pm

I've flown on BA regional J41 (29 seats) with both 1 and two FAs!
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 8:50 pm

The reason is that in Europe even RJ's fly on international trunk routes, not only in feeder traffic. In the U.S. it's only feeder traffic to hubs. However, these planes were never meant for mainline use and therefore the meal service might be a pain for the FA's.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Wed Sep 25, 2002 10:47 pm

Hi!

I have to say that most of you guys where extremely lucky to have 2 F/A's in a RJ! Last summer I flew from STL to PHL with USAir Express ( actually Chautauqua Airlines ) ERJ145 reg: N285SK with ONE F/A..... I must tell that the lady encharged for that flight had a great and loveble attitude, the flight was full and she had to serve all of us with a light meal during 2 hours and some minutes, I think that was too much for her but she handled very well! I think that's not too good specially because I did before that a flight from YYZ to CLT in a USAir 737-400 with at least 5 F/A's and the only thing we got was a cup of coke and some peanuts, and the flight was shorter than this one!!!
Think about this!!!
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:07 am

If it has not changed, the ratio of FA/pax in Canada is 1 per 40 with a minimum crew depending on aircplane type.

If I am not mistaking, the minimum crew on the CRJ is 1 and Transport Canada has accepted a ratio of 1 per 50 on that airplane. (I could be wrong)

I have flown many time the Air Canada CRJ (EWR-YUL, PHL-YUL). Depending on the load, there was one or two FA's. On those flights, unlike US Airways  Big grin for instance, Air Canada  Smile serves a light lunch (or breakfast) with a full bar service.

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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:22 am

As a "one-in-a-million" chance here in the U.S., you just might get two F.A.'s aboard a regional jet. During my first time flying a regional jet on COEX from IAH to DAL, there were two F.A.'s, one the main F.A. and the other a training F.A. You can refer to my trip report if you wish.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:42 am

I flew on a british Airways flight on an ERJ and there was a pretty good meal service and two f/a's (one on the front of the trolley, one on the back).

Regards

Dan  Smile
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:44 am

All of the United Express flights on their CRJ's only have had 1 FA, although the service was excellent. The FA always asked people if they wanted refills on sodas or extra snacks.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Airlines Put 2 FA's On 50 Seat RJ's?

Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:01 am

Continental Express offers meal service on the ERJ-145's. Currently only cold meals due to the lack of a hot galley but we do brew our own coffee on board on most of the planes equipped with the real coffee makers.
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