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JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 1:39 am

I was wondering.

this post is adressed to both pilots and aviation lovers like myself.

last summer when I flew into JFk i landed onto runway 13R. and i can just say it was awsome. by the way it was Delta flight 81 boeing 767 out of AMS.

has anyone of you have experienced the same landing, what is your opinion about it ?? and to pilots, how hard is the approach ????

now I have never, not even close landed at Kai Tak, but this landing in someway looked like it. uh please dont burn me on me saying this.  Smile

please i am curious about your opinions.

Cheers.
G.
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 1:50 am

I have landed there at least with AF 767-200 few years back.It does a deep turn over water thats the only thing i remember of that.
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 1:53 am

You sure it wasn't the Canarsie Visual RWY13L? That approach makes a "steep" turn fairly low to the ground.
RWY13R is a visual approach only, although I believe you can also use 13R coming off the Canarsie approach too.
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 2:02 am

13L/R landings are an absolute joy to watch! I just love the steep turns they do just before touchdown.

13R landings are fairly common. Delta and many other airlines whose terminals are next to 13R will request to land on that runway for a shorter taxi to the gate. I actually saw quite a few landings in 13R yesterday.

Spotting yesterday was awesome! They used all different runways. At one point, they used 22L, 22R and 13L for landings at the same time! Really cool!
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 2:13 am

yeah it was the canarsi viual VOR approach.

it was just wonderfull  Smile

cheers mates  Smile
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 3:30 am

I've done it couple of times and yes it is an interesting approach. Landing on rwy 31 @ LGA is another approach that can have you grabbing the arm rests. Right when it seems that you are going to land in the water, the runway appears.
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 4:12 am

I beleive that the RWY we used in July when we came in from AMS to JFK on a NWA B747-400, great sharp turn but I think the jet turned over the water? Just can't remember now.

Any pictures of the planes doing that an a.net? If so please post a few.

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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 8:05 am

The 13R and 13L approach can be used from the Canarsie VOR.
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 11:20 am

The Expressway visual into LGA is a landing in itself. A lot of times, the controller will ask planes to "hurry it up" from what I've heard, and those planes will make the turn a little closer to the airport (instead of loooing over Main Street in Flushing).
Even standing on Main Street, and seeing the planes turn onto the visual is great. They are so low, I cannot remember any time I've been on that approach. I'm always on RWY22.
Speaking of LGA, I think the approach to any rwy is interesting. You have RWY4 where you fly "along" the city, over pretty populated neighborhoods, and right over the Grand Central. RWY13, you come up the Hudson river, fly right over Harlem, and if you're on the right side of the a/c have a perfect view down all the avenues in Manhattan. RWY22 from the south, you come up the hudson, then make a 180 turn over the Bronx/Westchester. then it feels like you're gonna end up in the water when the little "dock" runway comes out under you.

Canarsie VOR is really cool, not because of the proximity to the groud really, but you fly just left of JFK, so you get an overview of the airport before landing. You can also see the planes landing ahead of you, which is rare at a lot of airports. I flew into JFK this summer onto the Canarsie approach in a t'storm (touched down just as the heavy rain started to come down, and lighting started hitting close). It was really something. I think we might have been one of the last a/c to land at JFK on the approach, as I only saw another 767 landing after us.
BTW - This was on DL, and they were using 13R for departures, but we still used 13L, I must say, the taxi is a long one. We taxied down RWY 22R I think (I guess it was closed) for a long time.
 
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RE: JFK Landing 13R Awsome

Sun Sep 29, 2002 12:04 pm

The Canarsie VOR is actually located in Brooklyn. Thus, it is more commonly used for JFK approaches and departures as well. It is one of the most common SIDs used from 31L/R for southwest departures from JFK. Most aircraft that fly the Breezy Point Climb usually hit Canarsie as its first waypoint. Basically, they turn left, and follow the 233 radial to Canarsie and cross 2 DME at 255 (I think, I forget) at about 3000 feet. The Canarsie Climb and the Bridge Climb are very similar but I can't remember the specs right now. Canarsie is also a common approach for Runways 13L/R at JFK.