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SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:07 pm

29-09-2002 Arrival (from Singapore)

21:50 SQ 010 Singapore Airlines Arr. gate 21:48


29-09-2002 Departure (to Las Vegas)

23:00 SQ 010 Singapore Airlines Est at 15:10 (30/9/2002)


So what happened to this aircraft after it arrived in Hong Kong ?. 16 hours is longer then the flight to Los Vegas !!


 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:20 pm

So what? Delays happen in airports all around the world. I miss to catch the point here, should we post about every delayed flights?

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:24 pm

What did happen? 16 hours is a long time! I wonder what the passengers did for that long in Hong Kong.

This doesn't happen much with Singapore Airlines and I have flown Singapore Airlines many many many times.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:28 pm

I'm asking a question, if you don't like this question I'm sorry. Now can anyone tell me what happened to this 772ER in Hong Kong ?
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:32 pm

Radarbeam, i think Hkgspotter1 is trying to ask what happened to this aircraft, as you say delay always happen though. But strange as it arrived from Singapore on time but is delayed in Hong Kong.

I just asked, he told me that he didn't check because though it's a long time but it's not a serious matter (well for him) but it's still AOG.

But since it has the estimated time already, i guess the problem is fixed.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:36 pm

Oh dear, this is terrible news. How could a Jubilee fail like this?
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:16 pm

With only three aircraft on this route I hope they can keep the schedule after a 16 hour + delay.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:44 pm

Looks like a windfall for the Airport Regal Hotel !! There aren't many other N. America-bound pax flights at that time of the night to transfer passengers to.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 3:04 pm

Some technical problems?
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:33 pm

They should be able to keep the schedule. After all, SQ10 operates only thrice weekly. Also, I believe SIA has some 777ERs lying around.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:53 pm

i think its disgraceful that we haven't had a SIA "spokesman" tell us what happened?

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:29 pm

I don't see the need for an SIA spokesman to explain to the public what has happened to the flight. After all, it is just a technical fault on ground and not in the air. The passengers were probably not in any life-threatening situation. Just a simple explanation to them by SIA, accomodation and some compensation would probably settle the situation.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:46 pm

Erm Carol, he means Khoa.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

Yes, 9V-SVA well spotted !!
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:36 pm

Yep, hence the "s...  Big grin
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 7:21 pm

Whose Carol???? Am I missing something?
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 10:10 pm

Carol is Singapore 777. Very long story of which I do not wish to go into detail.

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Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:46 am

Aircraft departed at 15.13 (30-09-2002)
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:08 am

Engine problem again I'm afraid, 2 problems.

1. Something with the transition of oil on engine No.1, Haven't got more info for now.

2. Electrictiy problem on engine No.1

I'll get the report of the incident later.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:15 am

my friend said it's a fuel pump problem. The delay reason is due to crew rest.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:35 am

That's right, all of the fuel pump wiring bundles need to be inspected within days per Boeing' service bulletin and FAA AD. It's strange they did this in Hong Kong though.

If it turns out to be an engine problem, that is another for the Trent. I wonder if SQ is applying some pressure on RR because of all the IFSD.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:54 am

I hope the crew asked the opinions of the passengers whether it was safe to continue the flight before doing so. Passengers have a right to be consulted on flight safety matters!!![Ref:http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/914674/4/]

16 hours late or not, these passengers should just be grateful they have been granted the privilege of flying Singapore Airlines, a member of the Star Alliance - the airline network for the earth.

I just feel sorry for the Jubilee!
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 5:35 pm

SQ's 777s keep running into bad luck! Hope that's the last of it.....

CX773, if it's a crew problem, can't they just ask their other crews to take over the flight? 16hrs is a looong crew rest......

9V-SVA, so Carol = Singapore 777 = Male? Uh?
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 5:54 pm

I seriously dont understand why do people call SQ 777s Jubliee!!!! They're TRIPLE SEVENS!! Not JUBILEES!!! Thats what SIA calls them, not what they r! :-(
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Tue Oct 01, 2002 6:04 pm

Jesseycy, long story. It actually originated from the Airliners.net Chat function.

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 6:07 pm

Tsentsan, the name is printed on the aircraf near the first door.

777- Julibee
340- Celestar
744- Mega Top

Jesseycy, I think the crew roster will be affected if extra crew were sent to take over that flight
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:07 pm

Rosters not affected as yet as I'm operating the next one.
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:07 pm

Whats wrong with CX773's info ??
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:30 pm

9V-SVA, yep next one this week. So if its SVH I can have a look in the tech log and see exactly what happened.

Cheers
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Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:38 pm

9V-SVA, excuse me, why some singaporeans here have attitude problems? have I ever said anything nasty here? I don't know why my response will get such a reply... "CX773, thanks for that unnecessary piece of pointless information..."

If you don't like my reply, u can simply ignore it. Kids, please grow up! I feel ashamed of working as a part of SQ before. People behaviour's are like this so that's why SQ made mistakes and will happen again when "those people" are still around. I cant imagine if you're a cockpit crew and controlling the plane in such scenario:

e.g:
ATC: " singapore 29, ... taxi to SS taxiway and turn right onto S5 taxiway..."

SQ pilot: " Oh... THANKS FOR THAT UNNECESSARY PIECE OF POINTLESS INFORMATION, I have my way and I would like to taxi to the parking apron instead...."

ATC: " singapore 29, you hit 2 tail stands... please return to the airport for inspection..."

SQ pilot: " Oh... THANKS FOR THAT UNNECESSARY PIECE OF POINTLESS INFORMATION AGAIN, I know it and I already check the plane and it's OK, now we're heading to singapore, good day..."


Totally disappointed about SQ and its staff/fanatics !  Angry
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:26 pm

Sorry if I caused any disruption.

CX773 - I know thats what SQ calls them, but if you look at my original post you'd see that I'm asking why does everybody like to refer to an SQ 777 as a Jubilee. I'm in no doubt that Jubilee is a nice name, but please give a 777 the respect it gains and call it a 777 instead of a 'Jubilee'....

Thanks
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:38 pm

N521NA, maybe the way i express it is not necessary, but this is the way i feel when i see that message.  Sad The SQ29 incident is really something that the crew need to be aware of. I don't know how much you know about some users here but some of them are really nasty and i never post any message like this before. Also I don't know how much u know about SQ and CX but i'm sure CX will never make such mistakes in any circumstance.

Totally disappointed about SQ and staff cos of more than 1 mistake.

Totally disappointed about SQ fans/fanatics cos some are rude and don't know much about aviation and pretend they know everything.  Sad

I don't represent CX and I do hope SQ can do better which makes passengers feel better on their trip. I think the SQ CRM needs improvement.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:42 pm

Tsentsan, it's totally not yr problem, it's just my misunderstanding.  Smile I just don't understand why i got such a nasty reply after i answered u.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:43 pm

Funny how the Hong Kong users aren't putting so much enthusiasm into the 2 CX flights who were cancelled on 22 September 2002.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/934678/6/

Also, there is no information backing up CX773s statements where the pilots of SQ029 who unfortunately turned into a parking apron were really spoken.
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:44 pm

And also, I can confirm what 9V-SPK said. It was indeed an Engine 1 problem which was fixed in Hong Kong.
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:55 pm

Singapore_Air, I wasn't working for CX, so I'm sorry I can't tell u.

What imformation do u need for that incident? that was the SCENARIO. it didn't represent the real situation but SQ29 DID hit 2 tail stands!

here is a comment of ONE passenger and other issues from a website

http://osaka.cool.ne.jp/enote/sq029tpe19jul.shtml
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:01 pm

Singapore_Air, I wasn't working for CX, so I'm sorry I can't tell u.

What imformation do u need for that incident? that was the SCENARIO. it didn't represent the real situation but SQ29 DID hit 2 tail stands!

here is a comment of ONE passenger and other issues from a website

http://osaka.cool.ne.jp/enote/sq029tpe19jul.shtml
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:13 pm

CX773, Neutrally speaking, no-one can assure that any airline in the world would ever make any kind of mistakes, you mentioned "CX will never make such mistakes in any circumstance", well yes not for now but no airline can be assure about this or any kinds of accidents that might happen.

Hey you mentioned you used to work as a part of SQ before, what's the post?

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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:21 pm

sorry for posting it twice by accident. I'm not putting up a fight here. anyways, I hope the whole aviation industry is getting better in the future. NO WAR, NO TERRORISM PLEASE!
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:24 pm

sorry for posting it twice by accident. I'm not putting up a fight here. anyways, I hope the whole aviation industry is getting better in the future. NO WAR, NO TERRORISM PLEASE!
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:50 pm

It is kind of funny to see what some of you make out of a technical delay which happens a thousand times per day! What a major incident.
Does anyone know why LH from MXP was delayed 1h45min yesterday? Just kidding.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Wed Oct 02, 2002 12:15 am

9V-SPK, hm...... better not to say it here. anyways, i knew what the problem was when there's a SQ plane suffering technical problem in HKG. I dont work there anymore but i still keep contact with my ex-colleagues. I can still ask them if there's a delay on SQ flights.

SQ325, you may think it's not a big deal but if you're working in the flight operations , it's a big deal. you have to find out what causes the delay and how we can avoid or fix it if it's a techical delay. there're so many things involved eg. crew rest, crew change, aircraft change, route change etc...
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Wed Oct 02, 2002 1:09 am

Delay on SQ009 arriving HKG tonight (1/10)
from LAS
scheduled 1300 arrived 2130


CO 098 from EWR also delayed over 7hrs.

 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:34 am

@CX773
thanks for the short lesson about flight operations. But believe me i know how it works Big thumbs up . I was wondering about the results of that thread. Some CX vs SQ discussion. But is a fuel pump worth to discuss about?

I wouldn't go that far and call my self a SQ fan. But I'm not an employee of them only a passenger and from that point of view they are outstanding. I'm sure CX is outstanding too but is there a need to have this silly discussions. Both are excellent and healthy airlines.
i mean we are talking about a defunct fuel pump, sure there is a lot to calculate and handle especially on long haul flights.
 
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RE: SQ010 To Vegas Dlayed 16 Hours! (9V-SVH)

Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:46 am

I hate to take you people away from your discussion...but does anyone know whether this was an engine problem or had to with the emergency AD regarding fuel pumps?

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