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Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:37 pm

Here's a pic I took on my last flight, I was enroute BNA to ONT over northern Arkansas.

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I was having a "friendly argument" with a buddy about this. While I can see it's obviously a USAir, I'm stumped by the type. In my opinion it's a 757. Looks too long to be a 319; the 319 is one of the shortest Airbuses! What do you guys think? Anything about the shape that influences your decision? I don't see winglets...or am I blind?


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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:39 pm

US Airways A330.


 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:05 pm

Too much compression when I try to zoom in on it in PS. I can't really see winglets, but there is a good possiblity that it's an A321. The nose and the tail seem to show the shape of an airbus.
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:41 pm

Brian, I doubt it's a 330. Doesn't USair only fly the 330 from the east coast cities to Europe? PHL to London for example. Then it wouldn't be seen in Arkansas for sure!

Dazed, we were thinking about the Airbus shape. Is the 321 longer than a 320, or 319? How long is it compared to a 757?

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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:02 pm

I'm going to go with USAirways A321.
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:25 pm

Well, i would have agreed with BrianHames, i was sure it was an A330 too, but i dont live in the US, so i`m not going to argue if its in an area A330s dont go Smile
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:02 pm

I don't see full sized winglets like the A330, but I'm pretty sure the aircraft pictured has those small wingtip fences as on the A32X, so I'm going to vote for A321 since it's a bit long to be a 319 or 320.
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:05 pm

US Airways, A321 or B752

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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:14 pm


Hi!

I had the chance to take a close look to that nice air to air photo. It can't be a 757 because the tail of the aircraft is small, as all the Airbuses except the A330-200. If you look close to the wing tips they're small so it can't be a A330-300 from USAir. It's an Airbus A321 from USAir, the A319 would be smaller and the A320 would be shorter from the front part of the aircraft.
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:50 pm

Although I can't see the winglets, I'm pretty certain it's an Airbus A321. Just goes to show how alike modern airliner designs are.
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:59 pm

It's US Airways A321.

The body length/body thickness/wing width to length/tail heiht proportions say it's A321.

Body too thin and Wing too narrow for A330.
Tail too short and wing too thin for 752.

Engine shape and the small winglet on the nearest wing makes me say it's an A321... however, I could be mistaken...  Smile

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RE: Name This Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:52 pm

US Airways A321


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RE: Name This Plane

Mon Oct 07, 2002 2:17 am

Ok.....I think we have a concensus here. I'll go with that. But now that leads me to my next question which could be nearly impossible to answer, where was this plane going?

I have MS Streets & Trips map program. I drew a line from BNA to ONT (my flight), and several intersecting routes which would converge over Arkansas, and likely destinations would seem to be LAX or SAN if starting from CLT, or DFW if starting from PHL or PIT. Has US changed their 321 jet assignments for their fall timetable? They only show those routes using a 319 now.


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RE: Name This Plane

Mon Oct 07, 2002 2:52 am

Definitely an A321, and chances are high it was headed to LAX.

These are the current USAIRWAYS westbound transcons operating with A321 equipment, which likely would've been over AR:

FLT 91 PHLSAN
FLT 89 PITSAN
FLT 11 PHLLAX
FLT 29 PHLLAX
FLT 23 CLTLAX
FLT 1 PITLAX
FLT 9 PITLAX

A little less likely, but weather routing might have been a factor, it could also have been one of these:

FLT 121 CLTDEN
FLT 101 CLTSEA

By using the time of day, you could narrow it down further, but I would guess if it was in the afternoon it was probably flight 23, which departs CLT at 1605, and arrives at LAX at 1810.

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RE: Name This Plane

Mon Oct 07, 2002 3:13 am

Dazed, we were thinking about the Airbus shape. Is the 321 longer than a 320, or 319? How long is it compared to a 757?

A321 is longer than the A320/319. A321 is 146.0 feet long, and the 757 is 155.3 feet. Pretty much the same length etc. Take a look at both images, you can see the differences...and from the photo you took, you could probably pick out why it's an airbus (the curves etc).


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RE: Name This Plane

Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:54 am

its a A321, you can tell it doesn't have the long narrow shape that a 757 has.
 
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RE: Name This Plane

Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:48 pm

Travatl, I forgot to mention the time...guess that would help! This "meeting of the planes" was about 10:30am or so (central time). If it departed the northeast (PIT/PHL) it would have had to be about 7:00am - 8:00am, maybe slightly later if it left CLT.


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