flumuc
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Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 3:34 am

It looks like LH will restart Los Angeles-Munich Service in Summer 2003, the flight is in their schedule now (LH 452 Daily A340-300 + 2 daily flights from FRA). Boston is listed as a daily flight in the next summer season.
Hopefully we will see more like this in the future...
 
Flying-Tiger
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 4:50 am

It seems that not only MUC-LAX and MUC-BOS are back but that LH is going to increase FRA-MAA (Madras) to 6x weekly with B747-400 up from 3x.

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Sabena332
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 4:54 am

Yesterday I received a copy of the newest LH timetable and I saw that there are a lot of new flights already during the winter season. This evening I will continue reading to find out more new routes by LH and partner airlines.

Patrick
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scottysair
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:25 am

You're do?!? Where did you get it with the Timetable from at the internet or at the airport. Can you please tell me did you got it as for yourself. So I would like to think about anything to do as for increase by more flight and daily nonstop. Well, later!
 
LufthansaUSA
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:39 am

Any chance that EWR will see the return of daily MUC-EWR service? That was such a nice flight...its a shame to see LH pulling out of EWR.
 
usairways85
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:04 am

I think within a year when US Airways joins the Star Alliance, there is a good chance LH will fly MUC-PHL.
 
MAH4546
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:07 am

I think within a year when US Airways joins the Star Alliance, there is a good chance LH will fly MUC-PHL

No, they won't. USAirways flies PHL-MUC daily, that is more than enough. LH will put thier code on that flight.

It is very nice to see Lufthansa grow trans-Atlantic at Munich once again. I am confident MUC-MIA will be the next to return, probably by winter 2003 because winter is the busier season for MIA trans-Atlantics. The return of GRU would also not surprise me.
a.
 
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:17 am

Lufthansa usually got their new timetable available to the public 2 weeks before new timetable starts.

Time for me to request one  Big grin
 
SailorOrion
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 3:07 pm

LufthansaUSA:

I do not see much chance of MUC-EWR, since LH now flies daily MUC-JFK, maybe in two or three years when LH goes double daily MUC-NYC (dreaming)

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johnnybgoode
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 3:51 pm

hey, that´s something.
i´m surprised though that the three additional frequencies to India LH is to receive next spring will be used to increase frequency to MAA.
i would have thought that LH might want to increase its daily service to DEL to 10x a week, or perhaps even introduce a flight from MUC to DEL.

cheers
daniel
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tadex
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 5:03 pm

The mentioned flights have already been announced in an early July edition of the weekly LH magazine "Lufthanseat". It is NOT planned (in the near future) to switch back the present EDDM-KJFK v.v. service to EDDM-KEWR v.v.! The (printed) timetables are first sent to "LH-Senators" and are then distributed to airport and town offices, travel agencies.
 
SailorOrion
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:36 pm

MUC-PHL

No, they won't. USAirways flies PHL-MUC daily, that is more than enough. LH will put thier code on that flight.

Will LH fly MUC-PHL? I dont think so either
but the current flight more than enough? Definately not. The flight is usually well booked (usually there are less than 20 seats left); if LH has their code on the flight, plus on connecting flights from PHL, I do not think a B767 will suffice on that route for long.

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Sabena332
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:41 pm

Scotty,

a few years ago I ordered the timetable by telephone at LH and since that I get it regular by post a few days after the new edition is published. Great service from LH in my opinion. Maybe you call the local LH reservation number and ask if they offer a similar service in the USA.

Patrick
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usairways85
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:53 pm

yeah, i still think PHL-MUC is a possiblity. LH and UA have flown hand in hand on i believe IAD-MUC, as well as ORD-MUC. there has already been talk that LH will most likely increase service once US joins star, so if you're tellin me that PHL-MUC is totally out of the question then where is LH going to expand at PHL, add another flt to FRA, maybe a 744. So PHL will have 3 flts to FRA, 330, 340, and 744. Will demand be enough?
 
MAH4546
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Thu Oct 10, 2002 9:05 pm

Don't look for any LH expansion. Look at DEN, a much larger Star hub, with "only" one daily. Or MIA, a smaller Star hub, but America's third largest trans-Atlantic market from Germany, with still only one daily. Twice-daily to FRA (one on LH, one on US) and daily to MUC (on US) is very sufficient.
a.
 
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Fri Oct 11, 2002 3:40 am

Air New Zealand might code-share with Lufthansa on LAX-MUC once again.  Smile
 
usairways85
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:15 am

but then why hasn't LH start those flts or think about starting them soon. US entering star doesn't give any extra advantage to LH than they already have on these routes.
 
BA
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:28 am

MAH4546,

Comparing DEN and MIA is like comparing beans and apple pie.

Yes DEN is a larger Star hub, however it's used for a completely different purpose than MIA.

DEN is a Domestic Gateway and East-West Connector. MIA is strictly a Latin & South American Gateway.

Not only that, but MIA is located on the East Coast, while DEN is in way inland really in the middle of nowhere. You simply cannot compare DEN's Germany service and MIA's Germany service.

It's good enough that DEN happens to have a Germany flight. It could have nothing.

Again, 2 completely different purposes for the 2 hubs.

MIA cannot touch DEN when it comes to domestic service and frequencies.

If DEN was on the East Coast, then things would be a lot different. DEN would have plenty of Europe service but it would not be a Domestic Gateway or East-West Connector like it is now. Physical Geography is a huge factor in the role of a hub.

If you want to compare MIA to something, compare it to IAD.

Regards
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SailorOrion
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RE: Welcome Back LAX-MUC

Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:49 pm

Ok, back to the topic, at least a little: Here is traffic data for the first 9 months in MUC:

Pax: -6%
Movements: +2%
Cargo (no trucking, no transit): +15%
Mail: -3%

In September however, Passenger troughput increased over 3% year-over-year. An for the first week in October, there were over 9% more passengers and almost 6% more movements.

Looking better  Smile

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