invicta
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VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 5:37 am

I just received an email from Virgin frequent flier club that they are teaming up with Delta. I can’t find any reference to this on the Delta site.

Here's the link to Virgin's page
http://www.iflyvirginatlantic.com/us/red/news.php?section_id=13
 
FlyPNS1
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:12 am

It was announced last month.

Here's the award chart from DL:

http://www.delta.com/skymiles/member_guide/award_travel_info/virgin_atlantic/index.jsp
 
jrlander
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:21 am

It is just a frequent flier alliance at the moment. However, I do think that it is sort of funny that Delta has just inked ff deals with both VS and EK, who have code-share agreements with CO. I think if the DL/NW/CO thing moves forward, that codeshare between DL and VS and EK will happen as well.
 
scottysair
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:00 am

Also, Delta that have now with the Award travel with the skyteam alliances as for Alitalia, Aeromexico, CSA Czech Airlines, Air France, Korean Air and Delta, too. So you can do it as for yourself and here it is: http://www.delta.com/skymiles/member_guide/award_travel_info/index.jsp and I'm will able to save with the more as for the my Delta skymiles as for myself. I did stuck as for Delta by the long time and this is my favorites airline is Delta. Well, later!!
 
AirT85
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 11:10 am

Delta and Virgin were once partners before, around the same time DL was partners with Swissair and Singapore too I think! Interesting to see them getting back together. Anyone know why they quit in the first place?
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ContinentalEWR
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 11:55 am

Yes, Delta and Virgin were partners in the early 1990's with reciprocal frequent flyer programs and code shares on flights from JFK, EWR, ATL, MCO, and CVG to London (and other Virgin gateways). However, the two airlines split in 1996 and Virgin teamed up with Continental.

Interesting to note, VS is 49% owned by Singapore Airlines, which is a member of Star Alliance....

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blink182
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 12:02 pm

Let me get this straight, it's not okay for AA and BA to have an alliance together, but it is okay for VS and DL to have an alliance together. It seems a bit hypocritical on VS's part if you ask me.

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jrlander
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 12:18 pm

Blink182:

Delta has a fraction of the UK market compared to AA. AA is one of 2 US carriers at LHR. If other American carriers get access to LHR, the BA-AA deal will go through, just as the UA/BMI alliance has gone through.
 
nickofatlanta
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 1:04 pm

The VS / DL agreement is hardly an alliance. It's merely a frequent flyer agreement - no code-sharing etc. AA and BA have a frequent flyer agreement.
 
ybacpa
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Fri Oct 11, 2002 10:11 pm

This may not be 100% correct, but if memory serves me correctly one big reason VS left DL for CO was at the time VS was looking to sell a significant (but still minority) stake, which DL wasn't interested in buying. Along came CO, who was going to buy 30% of VS. To make a long story short, for reasons I'm not aware of, CO and/or VS decided against the financial stake, but kept the codeshares as they had already been set up in anticipation of the CO investment.



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flashmeister
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:52 am

It looks like Delta and Singapore are still frequent-flyer partners.

What I find interesting is that Singapore seems to be the most lukewarm of the Star partners -- they don't even have a Star Alliance logo on their homepage.

Now we have both Singapore and Virgin in a partnership with Delta. Wouldn't it be interesting if Virgin joined SkyTeam with DL/CO/NW?

Singapore would have its fingers in two of the more dominant alliances. Not a bad place to be.

 
zrs70
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Sat Oct 12, 2002 4:00 am

Keep in mind that through DL, it is MUCH easier to get rewards on VS. Further, miles for a Upper Class award are only 80,000, compared to the 100,000 on CO.
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ContinentalEWR
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Sat Oct 12, 2002 6:45 am

Delta isn't all that large in the UK. It does fly up to four times a day from ATL to LGW, once daily from CVG to LGW, and once daily from ATL to MAN, but if you compare DL to UA or AA, it has a much smaller share of the US-UK market. Virgin too isn't nearly as big as BA across the Atlantic, so I don't think a VS/DL tie up would cause regulators much concern.

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nickofatlanta
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Sat Oct 12, 2002 10:24 am

Plus they don't duplicate on any routes - now that DL has dropped BOS-London.
 
cba
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RE: VS - DL Alliance

Sun Oct 13, 2002 3:23 am

Blink 182, VS and DL would not be monopolizing Heathrow service, as AA and BA would.

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