englandair
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New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:48 am

Hello,

I just read this on Pprune:

bmi has renegotiated with Airbus Industrie to change an existing order for an A320 to an A319 which will be delivered in 2004 as G-MIDN.

Wonder if more orders will follow, and where the a/c will be based....

Cheers!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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dc-10 levo
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:52 am

Well done to BMI!

DC-10
 
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:55 am

Yet another reason not to fly BM!
 
donder10
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:59 am

Interesting news.I heard they were having problems filling up the 321s-just rumours though.
 
englandair
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:02 am

DutchDeltaDude,

For a start it's BD and not BM, and secondly can you expand on why you clearly don't like BD or the A319?


Hi Donder10,

I beleive the A319 has been selected to replace the Fokkers.

Cheers  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
777236ER
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:08 am

Surely replacing an A320 order for an A319 order is not a good thing for either BMI or Airbus?
Your bone's got a little machine
 
donder10
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:12 am

Interesting Englandair!What are the ERJs that were based at EMA doing now?Moving to MAN?
Cheers,Alex
 
A388
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:58 am

I also don't understand DutchDeltaDude point,

I have flown BMI (BD) for the first time this year from AMS to LHR and I enjoyed the flight. The service was excellent with nice cabin crew, food was good and the space the A320 offers is great. On the way to LHR I flew with the A320, while on the way back to AMS I flew the B737-500 which gave me an opportunity to compare these two aircraft types. The cabin of the A320 is indeed more spacious than the 737 "Classics" at least.

Anyway, I had a good experience flying BMI, both on the A320 and the 735 (regardless of the space difference). Hope to fly them again in the (near) future.

Regards,

A388
 
englandair
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:47 am

Hi Donder10,

I think that all of bmi's EMA services have now been moved to bmibaby, so they must have been transfered to another base- don't know where though!

Cheers!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
UK_Dispatcher
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:50 am

The A319 decision is to standardise the fleets as follows:

bmi (mainline): A319/A320/A321/A330

bmi regional: ERJ-135 / ERJ-145

bmi baby: 737-300 / 737-500


....... the A319 is seen as a replacement for the Fokker 100, 6 of which will operate with bmi (mainline) ex-LHR until the leases expire in 2004.
 
voodoo
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:01 am

Latest World Airline Fleets News confirms 319 deal,
also that BMI wants to cancel two Emb 135 and two Emb145 orders and is talking to Embraer about taking Emb-170s later on `instead'.
If this doesn't happen, the 135/145s will be parked up in storage as soon as delivered.
` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
 
wilax
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:45 pm

BMI has always intrigued me. They seem like a classy carrier, and this seems like a strange move, only one 319.
I also wonder why none of the 321's have been repainted. I'd like to see it in the new scheme.
 
BestWestern
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:14 pm

BMI are trying hard to reorganize the carrier, and its tough when you are losing money, but cant drop routes because of the strategic value to their owners (LH and SK).

The A321's are clearly too big for the carriers routes, with the exception of DUB and BFS, and the A320's are too big for LBA, MME, CDG, BRU and MAD.

Personally, I'm surprised that they didn't go for the A318's

The Embraer fleet has no home either, since EMA is now a 737 operation. This leaves them flying Jets into markets that really don't need the additional cost.

They also have major issues with the A330's - mainly that they cant get them into Heathrow, with the MAN routes not making money, and one aircraft fully mothballed.

But LH and SK are willing to take the financial hit for Strategy...
Greetings from Hong Kong.... a subsidiary of China Inc.
 
David_itl
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RE: New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!

Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:29 pm


BestWestern, which mothballed A330 are you talking about - the one in Toulouse? G-WWBD has been operating this weekend whilst G-WWBM went off to Zurich.

Anyway, we are 6 months into the 3 year "expected loss making period" for the transatlantic routes. I guess any new routes from LHR will also have an "expected loss making period" so we can look forward to similar comments to the one posted above then I suppose.

David

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