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HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:51 pm


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Did this airplane fly HNL-MNL nonstop. I know this routes is usually a 343. I didn't think a regular A330-300 could make this route with a descent load nonstop, as it is over 4,600nm. An A330-300X could probably do it, but Phillipine Airlines only owns the original version of the 333? What gives. Did they make a stop, or fly it empty? Thanks.
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:42 am

Yes A330-300 can do it , its max range is about 5600 nm .
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:12 am

You're right, the HNL-MNL route is normally flown by an A343. PAL however is notorious for switching aircraft at the last minute, especially on domestic flights within the Philippines. So my only guess would be that the A330 in the pic was a last minute replacement.
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:10 pm

My question is, was this airplane able to fly hnl-mnl (4,600nm) nonstop with a descent load? My guess would be no, as phillipines airlines has only non igw versions of the 333. Either the airplane was extremely weight restricted, or it made a fuel stop on the way. Can somebody comfirm.
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Tue Oct 15, 2002 10:19 pm

Dunno, after all Koreanair fly them from Seoul to Zurich.
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:19 pm

That is a lot of water to cross. I wonder what diversion fields are on the planned route. Also what ETOPS rules is it operating under?
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:03 am

Korean only uses their A330-200s on the Zurich flight. Not the 300s.
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:10 am

The diversion airports would be Saipan, Iwo Jima, Guam. Wake, Johnson and Midway (not sure Midway is still open)
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:11 am

Aer Lingus fly them from Shannon to LAX.
 
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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:14 am

Aer Lingus uses the 332 (not the 333) on Shannon-LAX.

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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:07 am

Could this be a flight that stopped in Guam.

There has been some news that PR wants to start operating Manila-Guam-Honolulu and back. Maybe this was a test run, or maybe not.

It could also be that one of the A343 had to be maintained in MNL, so they switched to the A333. I did not see this aircraft here in LAX, I doubt it was in SFO neither.

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RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300

Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:31 pm

PAL however is notorious for switching aircraft at the last minute, especially on domestic flights within the Philippines. So my only guess would be that the A330 in the pic was a last minute replacement.

Yes, they replaced the A343 on that day because the 343's were "busy".

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