flyboy80
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AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:35 pm

Hello all, is it true that Air Canada is flying Honilulu (however you spell that i dont know) to Sydney, Australia, and United Airlines from London (not sure what airport) to Amsterdam???? And im not talking code share partners im talking those exact airlines, man there are some unusal routes these days, feel free to share any you know of!
These all came off a timetable and signified it was mainline service.
 
thadocta
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:39 pm

What is so unusual about AC flying Honolulu to Sydney? Honolulu is a stop on the way from Vancouver or Toronto to Sydney.

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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 1:22 pm

I knew that AC had been operating their equipment HNL-SYD, and then someone told me they flew AC YVR-SYD and had to change planes. I checked the Air Canada website the other day and it still looks like they are operating their own equipment all the way to SYD. If I'm not mistake they are using a 767, although I think they have used an A-340 in the past.

Both AC and QANTAS have been in a quandry over that route since the end of CP. CP and QANTAS used to codeshare on the YVR-HNL-SYD route. QANTAS tried for a short time to use their own equipment the entire way, but discontinued that and now routes YVR passengers through LAX and then on to Alaska Airlines for the trip to and from YVR. It was nice seeing the "Kangaroo" at YVR. From a business perspective, it probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense to fly the entire way with a limited number of passengers.

 
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yyz717
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:30 pm

AC uses HNL as a mini-hub...to collect passengers from YVR and YYZ flights bound for SYD and to cater to the HNL-SYD market for Americans and Aussies.

AC does not have the equipment for YVR-SYD (other than using a payload-restricted 744). It's a low yield market anyway....it would not support the expensive 744 or the new 345 coming next spring.

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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:31 pm

United also flies London Heathrow - Brussels in addition to the London Heathrow - Amsterdam flight..

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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 6:49 pm

Yes, UA has a daily B767 flight from LHR to AMS. There is three UA flights per day to AMS: ORD-AMS (B767), IAD-AMS (B777) and LHR-AMS (B767).
 
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Wed Oct 16, 2002 7:57 pm

AC33/34 YVR-HNL-SYD will be an all-pax 744 this winter.
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panamair
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 1:02 am

Yes, UA has LHR-AMS and LHR-BRU flights using 767-300s to feed their transatlantic ops at LHR; these were inherited from Pan Am when UA bought PA's LHR ops in April 1991. They are however, not allowed to carry local traffic on these sectors, only connecting pax.
 
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:47 am

UA also flies a 744 HNL-NRT.
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:36 am

It's not true AC flies HNL-SYD... it's just a myth...
 
crazyboi
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:39 am

ETA Unknown,

Please qualify that statement for those of us living in Sydney.
This is the time. And this is the record of the time.
 
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:43 am

UA's BRU-LHR and AMS-LHR flights are new. They started around late 2001/early 2002. Loads are weak, but they are there to protect precious LHR slots.
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SegmentKing
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RE: AC HNL-SYD!?!? UA London- Amsterdam?!?!

Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:44 pm

actually the LHR-AMS flight has been around a while. LHR-BRU vanishes when UA needs the slot for a North American flight :P

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