airafriquedkr
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Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 1:30 am

Avianca will end service BOG-MEX-LAX service. The last flight will be on Octber 31. Avicanca will continue to operate BOG-MEX.
 
triley1057
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 1:49 am

What a shame. I will miss seeing their 767 parked at Terminal 2 late at night. Any word why this flight is being discontinued? Are there any other airlines serving LAX with a link to Colombia?
 
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 2:51 am


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It is indeed a shame as Avianca has been flying to LAX for about 20 years now using pretty much every single type of aircraft in its inventory as shown in the above pics. One of the reasons for the withdrawal out of the California market probably has to do with the fact that they don't have (and never had) 5th freedom rights on the LAX-MEX segment. On a side note, a great number of Colombian ex-pats in California decides not to travel back to their country due to the instability and the hazard that travel to Colombia represents.

This is just one more step taken to make Avianca a leaner machine by cutting off unprofitable routes and concentrating on being a profitable entity after many years of extreme losses.

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pzurita1
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:43 am

It is a shame they never got 5th freedom rights from the Mexican government. My question is, why did they do a stop in Mexico? They have a/c for a nonstop service BOG-LAX.

I remember TA also cancelled their flight SJO-MEX-LAX though they did have 5th freedom rights. Why?

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chepos
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:55 am

It sure is a shame to see Avianca shrink , but its a step they need to take if they want to stop loosing money . They need to cut all of their prestige routes and just concentrate on their money makers if they want to survive .
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am777
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:56 am

Well in May I flew the BOG - MEX, AND ONLY 10 pax continue to LA so I guess that it was a big money looser.
 
AM
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:03 am

Does anyone know what type they will be using into MEX?
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LatinPlane
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:29 am

Pzurita1:

Many airlines from South America and Central America that have flown to LAX throughout the years have done it via MEX without 5th freedom rights, Avianca was just the last one to do it. These days, it is just not viable to fly a tag along segment if it does not include proper 5th freedom rights.

Here is a list of the airlines that I've know that have flown the segment.

Aerolineas Argentinas: EZE-LIM-MEX-LAX
Ecuatoriana: Quito-Guayaquil-MEX-LAX
APSA: LIM-MEX-LAX and LIM-ACA-LAX (70s route)
AeroPeru: LIM-MEX-LAX
Lan Chile: SCL-MEX-LAX (now SCL-LIM-LAX with 5th freedom)
LACSA: SJO-MEX-LAX and SJO-ACA-LAX (late 80s route)
Avianca: BOG-MEX-LAX


In regards to Avianca, there is a large population of Colombians living in California, but like I've stated earlier many decide not to visit Colombia as often when compared to other Latin Americans in the area. Avianca also charged a very expensive fare for the ability to fly direct with them (approximately $1000.00 USD) when AA or UAL charged significantly less by flying thru their MIA hubs.

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COPA737
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:50 am

Oh, very sad..

Well, now colombians can fly with Copa, BOG-PTY-LAX cheaper maybe.

Or use any of the Colombian airlines that will enter to Panama by dec02.

Cheers,

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chepos
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:22 am

Hos is Copa doing on their PTY-LAX route?
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COPA737
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RE: Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles

Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:47 am

Its not daily, but its seems to work very good. They fill the flight with people that make their stop in the Hub of the Americas.

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