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Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:20 pm

Does anyone know why Korean Airlines flies LAX-NRT, instead of LAX-ICN? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:23 pm

They make a lot of money LAX-NRT, so they fly it. Their first US route was SEL-NRT-HNL-LAX, and they have kept it (without HNL). Of course, they also fly LAX-ICN nonstop too.

Many other airlines like SQ, Thai, VARIG also fly this route.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:26 pm

I think for peak seasons, KE has 4 to 5 flights daily all being non-stop ICN-LAX using a mix of B777s and B744s. However, KE001 is the one that goes ICN-NRT-LAX. They have fifth freedom rights on this route that's why they are utilizing it. There are lots of passengers flying ICN-NRT and NRT-LAX they can carry ex-NRT passengers, so why not??
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 1:28 pm

Ahhh Ryu2 beat me to it.... They do make a lot of money flying via NRT.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:41 pm

It's because it's a huge market. I wouldn't be surprised to see BA flying this route! Well, you know what I mean...
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:09 pm

Heck, even Air India has dormant fifth freedom rights for this route and is seriously considering a launch of service next winter. If the market can bear KE and KE can bear the market, then the more competition the better.
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:35 pm

Air-India should do it, they don't serve California do they? That'd be cool. Bombay to LA must be half way round the world, Bombay to Tokyo must be 8 hours, and another 12 across the Pacific? It's like London to Sydney or New York to Singapore.
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 1:57 am

Air India don't serve California, but DEL- or BOM-NRT-LAX could be an attractive routing if they did.

Aaron G.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:04 am

Air India currently code-shares with SIA's SIN-TPE-LAX and MAS' KUL-TPE-LAX.

Malaysia pulled out NRT-LAX earlier this year.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:36 pm

They fly that route because of the reasons posted above, and because on their way to Korea, they fly directly over Tokyo.

K.

 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:45 pm

I didn't realize that KE also flies a non-stop to ICN. Obviously getting a part of the California to Japan market is huge.
As far as Air India flying LAX-NRT route, that makes sense, but I think that SFO-NRT-India would be huge! There is a huge Indian population in the South Bay (SJC may make more sense), and currently they have two choices to get to India. They either fly east through New York and/or London, or fly west through Singapore. Either way, a direct flight to India from California is sorely needed.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:54 pm

As far as Air India flying LAX-NRT route, that makes sense, but I think that SFO-NRT-India would be huge!

AI's fifth freedom rights are for LAX-NRT and SEL-SFO. There had been plans to launch DEL-SEL-SFO flights back in the mid-90s, but the Asian economy tanked and so did the plans.
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:41 pm

BOM-LAX could be done on a polar routing, it's 7567 nm according to Great Circle Mapper. Also BOM-SFO is 7305 nm, also with a polar routing.
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:49 pm

BOM-LAX could be done on a polar routing

No it couldn't as it involves overflight of Pakistan airspace which is restricted from Indian carriers right now.
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:57 pm

Another big reason they fly this is its the only SkyTeam route from the western US to Tokyo. I believe Delta codeshares on it, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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RE: Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?

Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:32 pm

Yes DL codeshares to NRT as flight 7120 LAX-NRT and 7121 NRT-LAX which very unfortunately replaces the old DL78/79  Sad

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