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Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:31 am

BOSTON -- A Boston-to-San Francisco flight has returned to Boston this morning after birds were apparently sucked into one of the engines.

United Flight 185 took off from Logan International Airport just after 8:50 this morning.

Massachusetts Port Authority spokesman Phil Orlandella said that after take-off, smoke starting coming out of the right-hand engine of the two-engine plan.

He said it was probably because of one or more birds sucked into the turbine.

The pilot returned to Logan and landed at about 9:10 a.m.

Orlandella said none of the 119 passengers or seven crew members were injured. (AP)


~~Thats never a good thing! Hey hopefully the engines got their share!

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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:14 am

Nice way to put your topic title!  Big grin

Unfortunately, bird strikes are more common than we would think and affects engines in more ways than we would hope. I know that at JFK, they've installed some kind of device to scare away birds from the runways. Birds are a common problem indeed!
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:18 am

Thanks, Trickijedi....
Ive heard that they are a problem at JFK, but i know for a fact that at BOS (my hometown!..go Bruins!!) that because its almost completly surounded by water that seagulls in particular are a worry, but it doesnt happen all that much!! Have a great night everyone!
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:16 am

Ya know... At GPT, I got a first hand view of how they take care of birds thanks to Mr. Tom Jones **Name changed to protect privacy** He took me out in his expedition, and showed me the runway, and he had to use his flare gun to shoot off the birds. He actually shot one, and shot its wing. It was flapping around in pain so he had to put it out of its misery  Crying Poor little bugger. Anyway, At GPT, we also have these wolf/coyote traps that catch rabbits and other animals loose on the airfield. The next morning he will take the animals to the animal shelter right across the street from the airport.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:23 am

Seagulls just like pidgeons Rats with wings.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:36 am

I can recall an article I read mentioned that falcons are used at JFK to scare birds away. I believe that they are also used at other airports.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:39 am

Down here at RSW they use a dog to scare off the birds. Actually one has retired and a second has taken on the job. Story can be read at www.swfia.com.
 
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:33 pm

True story:

A KC-10 based at Mcguire ABF in NJ shattered its windsheild landing in what the crew refered to as a "Rabbit Strike"

The comanding officer demanded a more detailed explaination of how a rabbit got some thirty feet in the air to break a cockpit windsheild or he was going to have the crew take a drug test.

The crew then told him that on final approch an owl snared the rabbit in the middle of the runway. As the KC-10 came barreling toward the owl it tried to take off w/ its dinner in tow. The owl could not gain alltitude quickly enough so he dumped his pay load to get out of the way. The KC-10 then slammed into the rabbit carcass at high speed. The owl got away clean. Moral of the story: Twice in one day that was one unlucky rabbit.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:48 pm

UALPHLCS- now that is a GREAT pub story!!  Big thumbs up

Great stories, any more?

To comment on a point above, yes, PEREGRINE FALCONS are used at many airports to scare away other birds.

Falconry still has a great role in modern life.

Also, I have read that sound/sonar, and different kinds of guns are used.

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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:54 pm

Just south of PHL is a Heinz Bird Santuary. Falcons can't be used near the birds. But all over the airport are fiberglass qwl decoys that do a decent job of scaring off the birds at PHL.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 1:16 pm

Eagles may soar but weasles never get sucked into jet engines!!

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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:01 pm

A lot of airports have gas cannons. These are the same ones used on farms, basically it justs ignites little puffs of propane. I used to work in Boise, I've seen deer, rabbits, gophers, badgers, dogs, cats, red-tailed hawks, and lots of ducks and geese. It's a full time job running these critters off.
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:33 am

I've seen large hawks and osprey type birds often at the south end of DTW usually near the runways 21L and 22R. I don't know if the birds are just there naturally because the south end of DTW is mainly fields and woods compared to the north end which is built up of hotels and restaurants, or if the birds were put there to keep away the smaller birds.
 
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RE: Engine Eats Birds For Breakfast @ Bos!

Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:54 am

A brown pelican brought down a B-1 bomber.

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