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Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 6:34 am

This must be a relocation flight that I found on I then checked every Saturday through Christmas but no other 744's were seen.

Flight Number: United Airlines 864

Aircraft Type: Boeing 747-400

Departure City: LAX

Departure Date/Time: Oct 26 2:15P

Arrival City: SFO

Arrival Date/Time: Oct 26 3:40P

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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:26 am

And you wonder why their nearly bankrupt!!! Seriously, they are probably re-positioning an aircraft.

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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:18 am

It is on that to:
1) it continues Change of gauge service from SAL.
2) it goes to SFO for MX and in position for the Trans-Pac service the next day.
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:23 am

When you position an aircraft from point A to point B, it might be empty, but if you can sell a few fares, why not do it...
I dont see any criticism necessary. Flying a 747 from SFO to LAX, does it require a report on first page of the LA Times and SF Chronicle...?
Sounds to me that it would be better in the National Inquirer for some...
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:31 am

It could be a glitch in the system. Maybe it's a 737 that connects with a 747. If you put Baltimore to Sydney in, you'll get 747 for the equipment but it's actually a 757 that connects with a 747 in SFO, all on one flight number. Maybe this is like the system incorrectly showing a BWI-SFO 747 because of the continuing service.

If you put LA to Manila in for UA864, the CRS might state equipment 747 on the screen but it's really a 737 LA-SFO connecting to a 747 SFO-Manila, again all on one flight number.
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:10 am

It IS a change of gauge, but going from an A-320 on the SAL-LAX segment to a B-747-400 on the LAX-SFO segment. However, this only occurs on 26OCT, supporting the possibility that it's simply to reposition the aircraft.

Hope this helps!

SAL LAX C 800A P 1205P B /B /B 320 5.05 5.05 2313 N¶
LAX SFO P 215P 340P 744 1.25 8.40 330 N¶
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:15 am

It is in the schedule as far as I looked and that was until after Thanksgiving. Unless they pull it before then.
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:18 am

I think even during our recession there is more than enough demand on a SFO-LAX flights to fill 747s.
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Thu Oct 24, 2002 4:08 pm

I flew the same route on Saturday, and it was operated by a 747-400 N119UA. The aircraft load was as follows: F12/C8/Y84 out of F14/C73/Y260 (i think that's the 744 capacity). We were non-revving and were able to get into First Suite. Got some photos, and hope to upload them onto airliners in the next 2 weeks. Flight duration was 46mins at FL350. The climb to FL350 took only 11mins. The aircraft was towed to the maintenance hangar at SFO shortly after it was fully unloaded.
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:11 am

This flight is a continuation of the SAL to LAX flight which is operated on a A320. Keep in mind that this flight is only flown on Sat. and has been going on for a while now.

Check these flights out operated by a 767:
UA 1008 Oct 30
UA 1800 Oct 31
UA 1818 Dec 1

UA 865 Oct 30
UA 1207 Dec 1

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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:04 am

We should file this thread under "Hello & Welcome to Last Week!!!"

I've only mentioned that I have flown that route/AC/carrier combination six times in the last few months, under various threads, usually title "what's the biggest plane you've flown under an hour/shortest route etc..."

It's really no secret that any of the big leaguers reposition the planes in the late afternoons, or at night.

Do a search before posting, no wonder the database is overflowing there. It's all about doing your homework, people...
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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:05 pm

I know that UA has historically collapsed say 3 737 LAX-SFO flights into a 744. They used to do this a lot when the Shuttle product was still in operation. If they had only a handful of seats sold on a series of flights, or if there was a weather delay into SFO, they would load the 733 pax into a single 744 flight.

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RE: Wow, United 747-400 LAX-SFO

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:32 pm

Ive done a repo flight, USAirways A330-300 PHL-PIT...a one day only thing to position it for a PIT-LGW flight I think, flight #740 on 3/16...the plane was pretty empty and the fares were dirt cheap...repo flights are not uncommon...

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