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Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:03 am



Kiwi travellers are about to step aboard one of Air New Zealand's ten new-look Express Class aircraft that are launched on November 1, 2002 and one of the first things they will notice is the streamlined single-class interior.

As a new era in domestic aviation begins, the new Express Class concept sees the disappearance of Business Class and the start of a low fare, one-class service.


Reconfiguring the Air New Zealand domestic fleet interiors into a single class has been a mammoth undertaking for the airline's Christchurch engineering base.

A team of 41 design and engineers have reconfigured the ten aircraft over the past two weeks - with each only being out of service for 32 hours. More than 5,000 man hours have been spent on the redesign and engineering project for Express Class.

The tight turnaround involved stripping out the existing eight Business Class seats, installing 14 new Express Class seats and laying new cabin carpet in the forward section of the aircraft.

The are now 23 seat rows onboard, up from the former 21 rows, and seat pitch has been marginally decreased from the standard 32" on the old domestic craft to between 30" and 32" with Express Class.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Thu Oct 31, 2002 2:03 pm

FYI, the last Air New Zealand National domestic service will be flown by ZK-NGM as NZ559, departing Auckland at 2100 tonight (31 October) and arriving in Christchurch at 2220.

The first Air New Zealand Express service will be operated by 767-200 ZK-NBA as NZ501, departing Auckland at 0650 tomorrow (01 November) and arriving in Christchurch at 0810.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Thu Oct 31, 2002 2:36 pm

Will Air New Zealand be applying 'Express' titles to the outside of these aircraft or will they remain the same?
Also, got a sneak peek on Wednesday of the new seating layout on ZK-NGK. Certainly looks different without the J class seating, just like a big bus!
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Thu Oct 31, 2002 4:25 pm

Came to A.net to post about express....but 767er has on ready! saves me from typing LOL .....Its going to be awsome....Hopefully us kiwis and everyone will enjoy express ! Good Luck and God Speed PS TG992 thanks for the details I was trying to find them on airnz.co.nz but was a little lazy to dig deep  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
also how bout a timetable ....i would love to get one....saves me and my printer to get one ! will there be one issued & when ?

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:42 am

TG992: Is the 762 being converted to J class only????????? Quite frankly I won't really miss the meals in ANZ. They were nice but the since the flights are relatively short it doesn't really matter that much differnace.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:52 am

I'm guessing you mean 'Y class only'?  Big grin

Yes, it will be converted to a 220 seat Pacific Class layout.

No paper timetables will be issued from now on.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:41 am

LOL...
It is weird cause on Holmes last night, they showed the interiors. of one of the new cabins on a 737..
and guess what..they had IFE onboard. the had two TV's in the front section of the aircraft. and the rest Y class serats...

Are these going to stay? And if so..will they be turned on during the flight??

Cheers
Mike
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 10:27 am

Mike

No they probably won't turn them on. I have never ever seen IFE on a domestic flight.

Brent
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 10:28 am

Heres a question for anyone that's used the self check-in system, can you pick the seat you want, or do you have to take what the machine spits out at you?

Jetkid.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 11:08 am

You can choose to keep your existing seat assignment or change it if you wish using the ExpressCheck machine.

The IFE screens on the 733s have been there ever since Gary Toomey's plans to screen special news broadcasts during flights. They were never utilised.
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 3:44 pm

Today i saw NGB (idle at akl) NGF,NGJ,NGK and a whole bunch of 733s none in any new paint scheme.....so there aint are new c/s ?? i thought there was or is it still comming ???

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 3:56 pm

IF there is a new paint scheme, it will be applied during each heavy check, afaik.

First flights went off without a hitch, by the way - public loved it!
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 4:45 pm

Will the Atrs, Saabs and Beechs get the new express class or is it only the 733s and NBA?
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:22 pm

Do the ATRs, Saabs, and Beeches have business class to remove?
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:52 pm

TG992, Air NZ's regional fleet do not have business class seats, they have been operating an all economy service ever since.

Regards,
Falko
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Fri Nov 01, 2002 7:26 pm

Thanks for that Falko, but, as a staff member of the aforementioned airline, I knew that already.

It was sarcasm, dear boy! (unsuccessful sarcasm, obviously)
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 4:08 am

No paper timetables will be issued from now on.

NO??? This means I lost another airline to get timetables from.  Sad
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:24 am

Yup another airline without a timetable...looks like i will have to fix my printer and start printing it off...lol

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:26 am

sorry I saw I asked the wrong question (it was one of those days) after I posted it. What I meant to ask was are the ATRs, Saabs and Beechs getting the same type of seat as the domestic 733s and NBA
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 11:18 am

I thought there was an IATA regulation about having to have available a published paper timetable? Or is this no longer the case?

V/F
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 11:34 am

Im after an ....
*Air New Zealand Domestic Timetable
*Air New Zealand International Timetable
*Origin Pacific Timetable
*Qantas International Timetable
*Qantas Domestic (NZ) Timetable

i will have to cross of the top two now....

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 11:46 am

Qantas have too stopped printing paper timetables since last year if i rememebr right...

Jimmy
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:42 pm

I thought there was an IATA regulation about having to have available a published paper timetable? Or is this no longer the case?

well, since there's online/offline version, I doubted such rules even exists anymore.

IMO, ANZ's timetable looks nice and different.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sat Nov 02, 2002 2:28 pm

Which 73s have got the express class? as I saw NGA do a international flight today
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Mon Nov 04, 2002 1:04 pm

Yeah, which 733's have the new express layout???
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:28 pm

my mate works on the ramp at CHC for AirNZ was telling me that NGA, NGB, NGC, NGD & NGE are still have business class.
so NGF, NGG, NGH, NGI, NGJ, NGK, NGM, NGN & FRE have the new express class but I'm not sure about NGO.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:11 am

I thot NGA-NGE were in international fleet of Air NZ's B733, and they they would still have business class on them??

Can anyone confirm this??

 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:40 am

Hye Megatop..
Long time no see on the forum...Gosh..thought your comp had brok or something...good to see you back in action!

Mike
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 6:11 am

Hey Mikey:

Well, I've actually been snooping around all the time - just that I lay quiet with no posts...

Glad to hear from someone "familiar" too tho!

Cheers!

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:40 pm

Im guessing Air NZ used NGA, NGB, NGC etc. on domestic routes sometimes because my uncle flew NGB from CHC to AKL a few months ago. This must be going to stop with there now being a seperate and distinct international fleet of 733's. Does this mean when the A320's begin to arrive some will have business and some may not?????
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:57 pm

Mr Air NZ

My theory is they wil use the A320 on the trans tasman routes first. However, they may have to use them on domestic so that crews can get the sufficient hours.

Brent
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 1:00 pm

Mr AirNZ - NGA through to NGE are used primarily on international routes, however if they can be used domestically if needed. I imagine this will probably remain the case at a push, and they simply will not use the J class cabin. The A320s initially will be used to replaced the 767-200s and international 737s. Presumably, NGA to NGE will get express class interiors as they are replaced by the A320s (or perhaps they will leave the fleet). So the A320s will all initially come with J class. The 737s will be operating domestic routes for a few years yet, so (depending on the South Pacific strategy of course) don't expect to see single class A320s just yet.

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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:16 pm

NGA was tranfered to the domestic fleet but was used on trans tasman flights from time to time but is now back on international flights
 
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RE: Air New Zealand Express Commences Nov 1

Sun Nov 10, 2002 12:27 pm

NGA has also been reconfigured back to the International 733 config of 12J/102Y.
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