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Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:38 am

She's parked outside on of SAA's hangars,I saw the jet last week as we departed from 03L..didn't get any reg but it looked as if it was stranded there since last year.Sad indeed,anyone know the future for this particular MD?
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:53 am

HB-IWR is impounded at JNB as far as I know.

Regards,
Frederic
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:56 am

Does anyone know why the aircraft is in JNB and not in Mojave as all others not used by Swiss anymore?
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:00 am

I just checked Bill Harm's website, and he clearly writes 'impounded'. So maybe by someone who still has to get money or so? Just a guess...

Regards,
Frederic
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:05 am

If I'm not mistaken they blocked a SR M11 in JNB around the 02 October (SR grounding). Frederic could be right, the last picture entry date for HB-IWR is August 2001. Could it be that HB-IWR never returned to ZRH after the SR grounding?
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:11 am

the last picture entry date for HB-IWR is August 2001

Same on planepictures. August 2001.

/Frederic
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:23 am

AFAIK: The plane never returned to ZRH.
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:38 am

Does anyone know what they will do to it?
 
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RE: Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB

Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:40 am

It's still the same MD-11, HB-IWR "Bern", which is impounded at JNB. The reason are open accounts between Swissair and SAA maintenance (don't know the exact name of this company).

One problem is to find out, who the real owner of this MD-11 is. The same goes more or less for all former Swissair aircraft not operated by SWISS anymore, according to the SAirGroup administrator.

I'm not an expert on this, but in my opinion, this MD-11 will sit a long time there without finding any solution. The SAirGroup administrator can't pay a full open bill, as this would be a preference of a creditor. Instead he will have to pay the same percentage of the open bills with what is left.

Gerardo
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