Leezyjet
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SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:46 am

Aviance are not having a good weekend. The other day they hit a jetbridge with a CX 744, now today they crashed an SQ 744 into an empty baggage ULD.

Happened when they were towing the a/c off to a remote stand following this mornings arrival. As a result the flight the a/c was supposed to operate was delayed until the 2nd a/c came in, and the 2nd flight delayed for the 3rd a/c. The last flight ws due to be operated on the damaged a/c so it would allow time for it to be repaired.

Sources say that the guy that should have been watching as the a/c was pushed back was sat in the tug with the driver and didn't see the ULD.

Sorry no reg's - source didn't deem that important.

Total number of tug drivers now suspended = 5. That means only 2 left to do the work !!

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:26 am

Heathrow only have 7 tug drivers?!
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:41 am

Cx flyboy,

Umm - No.

Aviance in T3 at LHR have about 7 drivers, they also have drivers over in T1. There are numerous handling agents at LHR and each have their own tugs and drivers.

Just in the last couple of days, the Aviance T3 tug guys have crashed 2 a/c into things, so 5 of them have been suspended.

About 6 months ago, they crashed a tug into a Royal Brunei 763, just between the forward hold door, and the wing root causing substantial damage to the a/c. A/c was out of service for over 3 months whilst it was repaired - cost was over £6 Million to repair.

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:42 am

Cx_flyboy,

Its called cutting costs  Nuts
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:18 pm

I was checking the arrivals from london and was suprised why the 3 flights were delayed. Thanks for sharing the news. Which part of the aircraft was damaged, any idea?
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:48 pm

Who does Aviance handle at LHR and how they are supposed to handle them when they have less than 30% of their original tug drivers?
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:51 pm

What is stand for ULD?

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:53 pm

SQ should really get Virgin Atlantic to handle its ground services. Any idea of the aircraft involved in the incident?

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:04 pm

Big777jet - Unit Load Device

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:00 pm

I am totally unimpressed.

I hope SIA see the error of their ways and get bmi British Midland or Virgin Atlantic to handle their ground operations bar check-in which bmi operates anyway.
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:09 pm

SQ321 from London to Singapore

Scheduled to depart at 2215, departed at 0035 (2 hours and 20 minutes late)
Scheduled to arrive at 1905, arrived at 2045 (1 hour and 40 minutes late)
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:43 pm

If someone can, what was the registration?

Certainly Aviance are not having a good weekend!

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:51 pm

SPC/SPF/SMR all operated yesterday.

SPF in at 1500 out at 1830

SMR in at 1900 out at 2230

SPC in at 0545 but no details yet on departure time as it was after midnight.

So 9V-SPC is the victim!



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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:54 pm


Didn't bmi sell their ground handling operation at most of their UK destinations to Aviance?

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:14 pm

I think 9VSPC out at 0035 the next morning.
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:52 pm

British handling companies are really among the worst in the world...

I have plenty of stories to tell... More stupid than that doesn't exist.

Even in Africa.


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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:59 pm

Hi,

As a BRU 'resident', I'm really surprised. This is like the 2nd accident in one week. Really amazing.

So, both accidents were caused by Aviance? I assume this is some sort of handling company? Well, all I can say is that they really did a good job suspending these guilty tug drivers. People often tend to forget what they're dealing with. They're not playing with some matchbox cars over here, we're talking about multi-million $$$$ aircraft...

Let's hope they actually learn something from all of this.

Greetings from BRU,

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:51 am

Let's hope they actually learn something from all of this.

I think Aviance's insurance company will make sure they will
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:20 am

So 9V-SPC was injured? What is the extent of the damage? 9V-SPC is a regular visitor to London-Heathrow as it is fitted with Spacebeds and the in-seat SMS/email service, if I'm not wrong.

Singapore_Air, AFAIK, check-in is handled by Aviance as well. In fact, one of the Aviance customer-service officers was featured in SIA's Outlook(in-house staff magazine) for helping an Aussie tourist flying from JFK who missed her connecting flight, SQ321.


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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:59 am

9V-SVA,

I was on SPC three weeks ago and you are correct, it's got the Spacebeds and all.
 
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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:07 am

9V-SPA,

Do you have the name of that Aviance person. My g/f works for them on the SQ contract at LHR, also my mates wife works on the SQ ticket desk. Also in reply to your earlier post, VS only just have enough staff to cope with our own operation, but it would be good if we did eventually take on SQ too.

B-HXB,

In T1 Aviance handle Bmi's loading and pushback.

In T2 they have Iberia for check-in, loading, pushback and dispatch.

In T3 they do SQ check-in, loading, pushback and dispatch. Also do loading and pushback for SAS, CX tows to/from Bmi hanger, Sudan Airways - everything, Turkmenistan - everything and Biman - everything.

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:13 am

Her name is Trisha Barnard. Anyways it's 9V-SVA.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:39 am

9V-SVA

Oops !! sorry man - finger trouble, just got in from work

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:43 am

Just realised - I'm going out for a meal with her and her partner on Thursday !! - Small world Hey.

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RE: SQ 744 Hit Today At LHR

Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:44 am

LOL Leezyjet. Tell her she got mentioned in the SIA in-house staff magazine for being exceptional. Ask her if she remembers this 19-year-old girl called Sophie Pimm.

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