keesje
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US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:02 pm

I've flown in the US a few times, with Delta, UAL and NWA. Those were two class flights. A small comfy F class in front for high paid folks and FF upgrades I guess. However many flights have only one cabin class.

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How is it organsized; is this single class somewhere between coach & F or is it basicly coach & do you have to pay for everything except drinks & nuts ?


Do all "express" flights have a single cabin class only ?
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:12 pm

I do not know since I haven't flown US domestics in F but in Europe they are basically just Y seats with better service, lounge and recently, even the food is just normal... Well at least that is with many airlines like bmi, swiss etc
 
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:22 pm

all of the low cost carriers (i.e. Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue etc.) have only one class. You do not get meals on these flights (and I don't think you can pay for one anways)...all of the mainline flights have two classes...soemtimes these flights serve meals however with the cost setbacks, I think they are a lot less frequent. I would say all express flights are single class.

I have not flown AirTran or Southwest but JetBlue has more of that "in between" type service...leather seats, PTVs, etc. I think Southwest is just "coach." Hope this is the answer to what you we're trying to ask...

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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:23 pm

Basically, US Domestic mainline flights on most airlines will have a first class cabin, typically 8 to 24 seats depending on the aircraft and airline configuration. Commuter flights on the turboprops and regional jets generally do not. But there are some exceptions. NWAirlink (Mesaba) Avros have a F cabin, and America West Express (Mesa Air) CRJ-700/900s will have a small F section... this is generally to reduce the number of overall seats in order to meet scope clause issues.
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:27 am

come to think of it, do any US carriers charge for anything but movies 'n' booze?
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:36 am

Doug_Or: Not any I can think of. PeoplesExpress did... but now that seems to be the domain of the European LCCs.

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keesje
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:45 am

Is single class a result of short flight time & small aircraft capasity or do the majors also have longer flights with larger single class aircraft ?

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I flew LAX-SFO with UAL Express a few yrs ago on a 737 which was a very short flight, do you get meals on longer flights or can you buy them ?

More in general ; what is the single class policy of the UA, AA, CO, NW, US ?
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:56 am

United Shuttle, Delta Express, and USAirways Metrojet were specialized products designed to compete with Southwest... typically in lower yield markets. As a result aircraft were reconfigured to single class cabins with simplified galleys that could dispense snack mix and Coke. Only Delta Express still exists today. Typically these flights were not much longer than 2 hours.
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:57 am

ATA also has a single-class configuration.

And yes, all "express", non-mainline route aircraft usually have a single-class configuration as well. Well, I can't think of one that doesn't anyway.
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:25 am

Just a correction, AirTran does in fact have a two-class cabin. Jet Connect will be one class though.
 
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:07 pm

United Shuttle was actually configured with 8 first class seats.... so, it really wasn't 1 class.
 
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RE: US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?

Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:06 pm

Single class US airlines that a European might actually fly:

Southwest, JetBlue***, Midwest Express*.

Two-class US low-cost/low-fares that a European might actually fly:

America West**, Frontier, AirTran, Spirit.

Two-class US low-cost/low-fares that are now defunct:

Vanguard, National.

Major two-class US carriers:

Alaska, American, Continental, Delta, Northwest, United, USAirways.

In the US, expect to pay GOBS of money for a first class ticket, unless you're flying MidWest Express, which serves only about 30 markets.

* Midwest Express is first-class only.

** America West is was started as a low-cost/low-fare but now operates as a major carrier.

*** JetBlue's coach class seating is more similar to European style First class seating, though they are still coach seats.
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