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Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:10 pm

hELLO GUYS!

I ve got a question for you... did a waterplane with 8 propellers exist around 1945 ???? please help me... Florian
 
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:21 pm

Howard Hughes's HK-1 Spruce Goose?

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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:22 pm

Yes, built by Hughes (as in Howard Hughes, entrepreneur who became more and more of a recluse as time went by). Its official designation was the HK-1 Hercules, but it was known by its nickname, the Spruce Goose, because it was built of wood. It made one short hop, but never really flew - Hughes was said to be very dissapointed about this. It is now preserved at Long Beach, California, in the USA.


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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:22 pm

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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:12 pm

I remember visiting the Deutche museum in Munich which has a very good aviation section. There were several models of German aircraft from the pre-war era and I seem to recall some large sea planes, one of which may have had 8 engines. In fact I was surprised how many large aircraft they had in that period. Maybe someone has more info?
 
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How 'bout A Twelve (12) Engined Seaplane?

Thu Nov 14, 2002 11:15 pm

See the Dornier DO-X.



http://www.captain.at/capages/index.php?p=dox

My dad saw this plane when it came on tour to New York. Said it was awesome.
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:17 am

The Do-X was 12 engined! Note the "push-pull" arrengement.
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:50 pm

I think the Germans had a couple of flying boats that pushed that 8 engine limit.

Also consider the:

B-36 6 turning 4 burning
B-50 4 turning and 4 buring

I can't remember the name of it but in the 1930's the Soviets had a big propaganda aircraft that had 8 motors. It crashed during a filming run when an escorting fighter attempted to loop around the wing and ended up taking the wing off.
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:02 pm

L-188

The aircraft you refer to is the "Maxim Gorky". Designed by Michail Kalinin, it was built in the mid-30's, as discussions emerged about a replacement for the aging(by this time) russian heavy-bomber-fleet consisting still of the old TB-3. The design was nothing spectacular - it looked like a bigger copy of the TB-3 with 3 engines in each wing and two engines on the back of the fuselage arranged in a "push-pull" manner. However, the flight data improvements weren't that big, so the aircraft was reconfigured to a propaganda aircraft. The crash you cite is true. There was a second prototype which did a few flights aftter the crash, but was stored and eventually scrapped shortly afterwards.
 
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 4:42 am

Here is photo of "Maxim Gorky" (ANT-20):

http://svavia.ru/media/foto/ant20.html
http://www.tupolev.ru/Russian/Picture.asp?PubID=279

Was designed by Tupolev design office in 1934, could carry 72 passengers (plus 8 crew members), cruising speed 200 km/h, maximum speed 245 km/h, wingspan 63 m. The second prototype, ANT-20bis, had redesigned fuselage and wings, more powerful engines (6, not 8), maximum speed 275 km/h, could carry 64 passengers, first flight in 1939.

http://www.tupolev.ru/Russian/Picture.asp?PubID=307

BTW, Mikhail Kalinin was one of the Soviet high rank leaders in 30's - like almost all of them, except the one, with no real power... but no Russian web site mentions name Mikhail Kalinin as a designer...
 
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:03 am

. It is now preserved at Long Beach, California, in the USA.

It is actualy in McMinville, Oregon
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:12 am

Correct me if im wrong but didnt this plane at one time have the biggest wing span?
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:13 am

RIX,

There was also an aircraft designer having the same family name as the well-known Kalinin. I am not 100% sure about his participation in the "Maxim Gorky" project, altough several russian books mention his name. Same with the ANT-25, which(being also Tupolev by name) was an original design of Pavel Sukhoy
 
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:17 am

Here's a couple of pictures I shot of the Goose last July at the new facility:

The museum itself is light and bright, with a lot of glass...



The Goose itself...



And here, notice the Ford Trimotor under the wing...



And the tail of the beast, with a MiG-15U underneath...at this time, the rudder hadn't been re-attached yet.



You can flip through the balance of the images from that day at:

http://www.interceptor.com/~thumper/oregon/evergreen/

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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:20 am

LZ-TLT, thanks for correction. I can't recall if I heard this name as last time I read a Russian aviation book was definitely more than 10 years ago... About ANT-25 - from the link you provided in another thread (about biggest single-engine prop aircraft) I was amazed to know there were 20 of them delivered! I was sure about like 2 or 3... They were tested with different engines/equipment/... combinations, one of the goals was possible use as long range bombers...
 
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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:07 am

I know it is not an 8 engine flying boat, but as others have strayed from the original question ,so I think can I, by mentioning the Saunders Roe Princess Flying Boat
This old girl first flew in 1952, weighed 154 Tons, could carry up to 220 ,but in airline use it seems 105 passengers would have been more normal. Now this aircraft had 6 props and 10 engines, as the outer props only had one engine a piece, where as the other 4 props had two engines [ turbo-props] each. Saunders Roe built 3 aircraft of this type, but none ever entered airline service, and all three were scrapped in 1967

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RE: Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:18 am

Am I mistaken, or did the Blohm und Voss Wiking flying boat have 8 engines? It was the largest flying boat of WWII. Only one was built, and it was destroyed by strafing P-51s in 1945.
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