papatango
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Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:25 am

Is this the week Delta is going to announce the plans for their new LCC? Does anyone have any info on this?
 
GD727
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:24 am

Yes, it is. The only things I know for sure are: They are going to use 757's and they are trying to compete with Jetblue. I too would like to know more, even though there already has been extensive discussions on this. Nobody has answered my question, will this new LCC keep on serving the smaller cities Express services now (like PVD and ISP)?

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airwarrior
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:17 am

I was a Medallion level flyer at DL. I am now loyal to JetBlue. I won't be going back to Delta. They have had many chances to regain my loyalty and failed each time.
 
AirT85
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:59 am

If this venture is succesful (and there aren't really enough details to say it will or wont be) do you think any other majors will follow suit?
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chrisnh
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:47 am

Well, this poses a paradox of sorts if airlines want to join the fray and launch similar LCCs at the exact time that fleets are baking in the desert and the RJs are slowly ruling the roost. Capacity is going down, not up, and that's because the travellers of the 1999-2000 heyday have either (A) been laid off from their corporations or (B) been chained to their desks through corporate travel restrictions. And your leisure travellers are all playing close to the vest by either (A) staying closer to home and driving or (B) postponing vacations until another day when the economy looks better. There seem to be two camps of people out there: those that have been laid off, and those that are afraid they might be.
 
Big777jet
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:07 am

What is stand for LCC?

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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:08 am

Some of the other message boards are speculating that DL will focus the new LCC on point to point flying with some LAS service also. City pairs often mentioned include FLL-OAK and MCO-PHX. Only time will tell but my money's still on SWA.
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mrlineguy
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:32 am

Big777jet,

LLC stands for Low Cost Carrier.

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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:03 pm

No, LLC stands for Limited Liability Corporation. LCC is Low Cost Carrier.

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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:14 pm

I was a Medallion level flyer at DL. I am now loyal to JetBlue. I won't be going back to Delta.

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Big777jet
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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:51 pm

OK, I got it. Thanks to MrLineGuy. That's funny from Lowfareair! LOL

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RE: Delta LCC

Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:22 pm

Airwarrior was (most certainly) talking about his travels in the continental US or more specific, the routes which DL and B6 both fly,..
 
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RE: Airbus Lover

Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:48 pm

B747-437B was partially referring to the fact that all the miles gained by being a JetBlue frequent flyer won't get you a free ticket to Europe. Being a Medallion on Delta provides enough miles to allow you to fly free virtually anywhere in the world. The reward by being loyal to JetBlue is not as great as the reward for being loyal to Delta.
 
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RE: Delta LCC

Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:24 am

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am...) but didn't a number of carriers try this already, finding it just didn't make financial sense for one reason or another? Granted differences in fleet and scope, but the general concept sounds (to me) similiar to Metrojet and CO Lite.

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papatango
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RE: Delta LCC

Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:46 am

LCC announcement on WED NOV 20th at 11am
 
ouboy79
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RE: Delta LCC

Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:58 am

Ybacpa...

Apparently things are different this time. Before the low cost subsidiaries used mainline ground crews and F/As...only the pilots were flying at reduced cost. In the new Delta LCC...pilots will be mainline but all other employees will be new hires and it will be more so an airline being owned by another - and not just some rebranded planes. Compare it to DAL owned Delta and Comair. They both have seperate crews and equipment. This is kinda what they are going for. Mesa would be another example of a parent owning several individual airlines.
 
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RE: Delta LCC

Wed Nov 20, 2002 10:36 am

One question:

It was said that crews would be from the ATL 757/767 base. Will these pilots strictly fly for the LCC but make wages equivalent to mainline, or will these pilots be used interchangably (for example, a pilot does ATL-MCO on a DL mainline 767, then a MCO-JFK flight on the LCC)?

Jeff