sllevin
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IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:40 pm

From Reuters:

A meter and a half section from the wing of a Boeing 747 airplane, owned by Spanish airline Iberia, broke off during a flight to Miami, forcing the captain to turn back, a pilots' union said on Tuesday.

An Iberia spokesman said the 747-200 had a fault and had turned back to Madrid's airport on Monday, where passengers were boarded onto a different plane. He would not specify the fault.

"More than half an hour into the flight the crew felt unusual vibrations - a metal piece with a diameter of more than a meter and a half had fallen off the right wing," the SEPLA union said in a statement, adding that the piece had crashed against the tail.

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Seriously never good...anyone seen any images of the tail? I'm thinking back to that Air China SP year ago when the gear doors munched most of the horizontal stabs...

Steve
 
A320-Tech
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Re: IB 7474 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:09 pm

I wouldn't believe this as saying "The Wing Fell Off"... There are a LOT of aerodynamic pieces made of fiberglass that can be removed and have very little affect, if any at all on this aircraft.

Just aft of the leading edge are numerous panels that are removed for technicians to gain access to wires, air bleed ducts and co-ax cables etc. These panels are many times listed in the operators CDL as permissible to be missing for aircraft for dispatch conditions with only a weight / speed limitation. It is a smart idea to return to base if you don't know exactly what piece is missing and what kind of damage was done by it (as in the Air China SP incident). Kudos to the flight crew for their airmanship and decision making.

But again, I wouldn't believe everything that is implied by the media, they are often wrong / misleading.

Regards,

A320 tech
 
sllevin
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RE: IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Thu Nov 21, 2002 1:46 am

I agree that the news story makes it sound more like the tip broke off.

However, even just 1.5m of wing skin is a large access panel, or section, regardless. Especially anything that sets up 'unusual vibrations.'

I'm in no way comparing this to the Air China incident, which was caused by crew incompetence (although at least they didn't kill themselves and all the passengers, but that was as much by luck as skill) -- I'm just interested to see how badly the horizontal stab was damaged.

Steve
 
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RE: IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Thu Nov 21, 2002 2:31 am

All three of you compared to Air China. It's China Airlines, not Air China.
 
sllevin
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RE: IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Thu Nov 21, 2002 7:53 am

Ack! My bad!

Steve
 
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RE: IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Thu Nov 21, 2002 11:06 am

Yes,

CHINA AIRLINES = TAIWAN
AIR CHINA = CHINA

Now can any of you point out Hong Kong, Taiwan or even China on a map ??
 
sllevin
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RE: IB 747 Loses 1.5 Piece Of Wing In Flight

Thu Nov 21, 2002 11:39 am

Yes, I know the difference. I've even spent 'quality time' at CKS when I was doing the SFO-TPE-BKK runs for work. But in the recent years I have come to associate China Airlines with the new, modern livery (which, in my opinion, is one of THE most stunning liveries out there!), and not with the old, white with thin striping -- a livery similar to the current Air China. So when I see those pictures, I always thing 'Air China' and not 'China Airlines'

Steve

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