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Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 9:03 am

How many 777-300ER's does Emirates plan to order when will they get there first 777-300ER's. What routes will they be used on?

 
na
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 8:08 pm

Aren´t these airplanes (some at least) replacements for older 777s? That was what I remember when the order was announced.
 
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 8:28 pm

The word is currently 25 B777-300ER - but only when it gets a stronger power-plant, the current GE-90 isn´t good enough for EK. All B773ERs - if ordered - will repalce the current B777-200/300 fleet.

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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 10:50 pm

The word is currently 25 B777-300ER - but only when it gets a stronger power-plant, the current GE-90 isn´t good enough for EK. All B773ERs - if ordered - will repalce the current B777-200/300 fleet.

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Is that a tiny bit of GE bashing or fact. Its not like there is a lot of choice in the 115k market. 25 is a lot and if they don't like GE what the hell else are they going to put on. Are RR P&W going to get into the 115k market

If recent memory serves me right its the RR trent having all the IFSD's. You don't hear any problems re GEs now. Air France love theirs
 
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 11:15 pm

This is fact, was reported by the Seattle Times recently. EK has some doubts that the current B777-300ER GE90s will be able to deliver enough thrust all over the year in DBX´s hot climate and waits for a beefed-up version before commiting to the B773ER.

DXB is for sure not the most friendly climate for any engine - and I assume that GE90-powered B777s will have some problems there, too. I remeber rumours that Saudia was having some problems with theirs but can´t proove it. I think it is something no engine willbe able to escape from.

RR and PW can develop a 115K-engine if they want - but won´t have an application for it. GE has an exclusive contract for the B777X - as RR has for the A340-500/600. Had negative impacts on both sides: Air France decided in favour of the B777-300ER because the A340-600 has RRs, Cathay and Singapore have said that they are far from happy that the GE90 is the exklusive engine on the B777X and that was a driver behind their A340NG decisions.

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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 1:01 am

Hello,

Emirates' order for the 25 777-300ERs is indeed still pending on GE's ability to produce a 120,000+lb engine. More details and explanation at: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/52589/


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Alain Mengus
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donder10
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 1:03 am

I thought EK had a letter of intent for both the 346+773ER?
 
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 1:34 am

Thanks Flying Tiger and Alain.. informative as always.

 
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 3:44 am

Donder10,
Emirates LOI signed with Boeing at DXB airshow last year was only for -200ER and -300s. They are looking to place orders for additional 777s which will include upto 25x B777-300ERs if they can deliver perf. to Emirates spec.

The -300ERs are likely to be used to thicken long-haul routes currrently served by the -200ER and to upgrade some existing -300 routes.

Rgds
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 3:51 am

From next summer LHR will be 3 daily 773s so Im not happy Sad
Will the 345s ever make an appearance in Europe or are they strictly US only?
 
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 6:48 am

"Cathay and Singapore have said that they are far from happy that the GE90 is the exklusive engine on the B777X and that was a driver behind their A340NG decisions."

That's not entirely accurate...
SQ chose the A345 over the 777X long before GE was announced as the sole provider for longer ranged 777s. In fact, the leading choice for 104k+ pound thrust engine (that was advertised for that model at that time) was an RB211 Trent800: SQ and CX's darling.
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 8:25 am

I was also under the impression that RR _didn't_ have an exclusive contract for the A340-500/600. It's been mentioned in a few threads before, along with random speculation about NW's interest in a PW powered A340.

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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 8:09 pm

Donder10,
The A340-500s will be used on scheduled flights to North America and Australia. However during the initial month when the acft will be used for crew training these acft are likely to operate the existing long-haul network. So expect to see them at Osaka, Perth, Johannesburg, Manila and probably London and Manchester.

Rgds
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Thu Nov 28, 2002 8:13 pm

I was wondering , in their current routes . Why do they need the -300ERs ? I thought the non-ERS has enough range for their current routes and in addition , they also planned to order A340-600s .
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gigneil
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RE: Emirates 777-300ER Order?

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:35 am

Frequently the weather in Dubai isn't friendly to even their current routes.

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