hkgspotter1
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CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:22 am

29-11-2002

17:15 CO 099 Newark/NewYork Continental **Cancelled**

Does anyone know why this flight was cancelled ??
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:25 am

Who cares? Hundreds of flights are cancelled worldwide each day.
 
artsyman
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:33 am

According to Sonic, this flight is not cancelled. It is only the 28th here in the US, so I am not sure about your stats for the 29th.

Jeremy
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:07 pm

Seiple,

If you have NOTHING to say DON'T SAY IT.

Artsyman,

According to the Hong Kong airport site today's arrival is CANCELLED. ETA would have been in about 6 hours.
 
Alpha 1
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:11 pm

Hkgspotter1, you're entitled to your opinions, but why the interest in a flight cancelling, unless you know someone that was supposed to be on there?

I find that curious.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:22 pm

Alpha,

I don't understand, why do I have to know someone on the flight to ask why its cancelled. I'm asking because its very rare for it to be cancelled.

Whats going on with this forum ?

If we all took your views then none of the topics would be posted because at least one person would think its not needed.

Daryl
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:22 pm

I checked sonic again for the flights that left on the 27th, 28th and 29th. The 28th isn't there, but sonic would normally have a note saying cancelled. This leads me to believe that this was a scheduled cancelation for Thanksgiving. I know that many of the international pairings have been 4 trips instead of three days because of thanksgiving. Basically there is nothing in the system to suggest that this flight had mechanicals, or delays, therefore it must be just a scheduled cancelation due to the holiday

Jeremy
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:27 pm

Jeremy,

Thank you for that.

Daryl
 
Alpha 1
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:42 pm

Alpha,

I don't understand, why do I have to know someone on the flight to ask why its cancelled. I'm asking because its very rare for it to be cancelled.


I find it curious, that's all. There are flights cancelling all the time. I just don't understand why the need to know ,that is all.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:53 pm

well, Hkgspotter1 is in HK and he is interested in aviation, if there's a flight flying into HKG happened to be cancelled, he has every right to be curious.

I think I would ask the same question if CX100 is to be cancelled! Please respect other people's interest and not make such silly remarks if you don't find it interesting.
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:57 pm

OK,

I think we should stop there before we all think that the other is on the attack.

Thanks again.

Daryl
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:04 pm

Cathay Pacific,

Just added you to my respected userlist !

Rgds
Daryl
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:14 pm

Daryl:
Thanks for your kindness!  Smile
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:19 pm

You two gonna exchange rings soon?  Wink/being sarcastic

Just kidding, guys.

I meant no harm with my comments. I just find it curious, that's all.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:37 pm

Alpha_1,

I'm so offended now!!! Pissed






just kidding Big grin

Anyway, I hope my previous post didn't offend anyone and if I did, I'm sorry.
cathay pacific, now you're really flying
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:43 pm

I agree... I'm always interested to know why a flight is delayed or cancelled. Granted flights are cancelled everyday but we love aviation and planes... people are just interested to know what happened and why only... no big deal eh  Smile
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 6:09 pm

No Problems, what a happy bunch we are  Nuts
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 9:02 pm

The following flights are cancelled at AMS this afternoon. Shall I start different topics for every one of them? Some people may find that interesting!

CO046
CO047
KL2105
KL2106
AT 850
AT 851
AZ120
AZ121
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:18 pm

Should we laugh ........ Sleepy
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:30 pm

DDD,

I think that in this case it's interesting to know why CO99 was cancelled. It is, after all, one of the world's longest flights.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:53 am

Seiple,

What a rude man you are. As previously said, if you have nothing to say...just don't say anything.

traveler
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:05 am

29-11-2002

1:09 PM AA829 from Chicago **Early at 12:59 PM**

OMG! This flight is 10 minutes early? Does anyone know why? If I don't find out it would be awful!
Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:23 am

One simple question - 21 replays - including 18 replays bashing author of the thread for posting such a stupid question.

If you dont like what he posted then dont read it. Maybe there are some other people that are curious about this cancelation.

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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:32 am

I think some ought to be a little more polite and less critical here.

Let's examine some things:

It is a holiday weekend and planned cancellations are normal.

Due to the unusual nature of this flight: the length, CO's infrequent service to HKG, the unique service this flight provides to New York, and the distinctive flight path; this flight draws more than just a passing interest for an aviation enthusiast. For CO, these things might contribute to a feeling of pride and prestige. I would logically conclude that this flight would almost never cancel due to the above reasons. There is nothing strange about that.

I disagree with the statement that flights cancel all the time and that's typical. Just because mainline cancellations happen does not make them common under normal operational days (meanining no blizzards or other unusual circumstances). For example, on a normal day Continental boasts that they usually complete around 98-99% of their mainline flights. 100% completion days are not rare or unheard of. I have been out to my local airport, Denver, 4 times the last few weeks. Each time I carefully look at UA's departure and arrival screens. Among all their hundreds of flights, not once did I see a mainline flight cancel (commuter flights? that's a different story). Therefore I conclude UA is about the same. Two years ago I took a flight on UA. It's a long story, but the flight was 7 hours late and not cancelled. I have had nothing unusual happen since then on any trips. The point is that airlines try to avoid cancelling flights at all costs, especially international long hauls. So those of you who claim cancellations are "common," please use some operational statistics to define what you mean by "common."
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:38 am

One time, a few years ago, I had a reservation on CO from Newark to MAD.
I happen to notice that a number of times, in he few weeks before I left that my flight was canceled. I started to worry, wondering if something was going on that I was not aware of. It turns out that the flight to MAD and return operated fine.I was asking around, to no avail why it was being canceled. Reality is you dont know the full reason why Hkgspotter1 asked the original question, nor is it any of our business. He is however, entitled to a decent response if someone wants to amd is able to provide the answer. Let common decency prevail. It could just be that he wants to take pictures, thats his business, not ours.
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:00 am

Anyone think of checking the CO website and see if it is scheduled to operate. Most US airlines reduce their schedule on the Major holidays (ie Thanksgiving,Christmas and New Years) due to the reduced pax loads.
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 6:22 am

Hkgspotter1,

I have a friend that works in CO in Hong Kong. I dropped him an E-mail and apparently he told me that the bookings on that flight seemed to be low (As what FutureFO said) so all passengers were either being compensated and wait till the next CO flight. Not too sure if any passengers were transferred onto another flight to HKG or not. That's all I got.

I think people here should pay more respect. He asked a question about aviation stuff and no-one has the right to judge if the post is correct. If the post is posted in the wrong thread or totally not appropriate the crew moderator will delete it, none of our business.

Best Regards
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:38 am

What are the average loads for this flight? Or is it because of the Thanksgiving weekend that it's low?
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:52 am

Mr. BA,

I think it's only for this flight that is an exception. Most CO HKG - EWR v.v flights have pretty average loads and especially in Business Class where in fact that there are a majority of Biz travellers travelling in J (BusinessFirst). Also it's the only airline to fly non-stop to HKG, and as I know lots of tourists fly on CO to get to other destinations (Examples Joining Cruises in Miami) and travel agencies here in HKG arrange some of the tours through CO.

CO also will be resuming daily services in the future.

Best Regards
 
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RE: CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)

Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:56 pm

I thought it had gone back to daily already!

So this flight has average loads, back when CO flew 747's and DC10's to Australia and NZ the flights were almost always full in Economy but yeilds were bad so they pulled out!