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Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:46 am

US Airways Plans New Seasonal Service Linking Philadelphia and Ireland

ARLINGTON, Va., Dec. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- US Airways today filed an
application with the U.S. Department of Transportation for route authority to
operate new nonstop roundtrip service to the Irish destinations of Dublin and
Shannon from its Philadelphia hub.
The airline is seeking approval to begin seasonal summer service in May
2003. Service on both routes will be flown using Boeing 767 aircraft,
offering seating for 199 passengers with 23 seats in Envoy Class and 176 seats
in Coach Class.
Subject to U.S. and foreign government approvals, US Airways will offer
daily nonstop roundtrip flights between Philadelphia and both Dublin and
Shannon for the summer travel season, through the end of October. US Airways
hopes to serve the routes year-round once market conditions and aircraft
availability allow.
"Dublin and Shannon will mark our ninth and tenth European destinations,
further strengthening our transatlantic gateway in Philadelphia," said Andrew
P. Nocella, US Airways vice president of planning and scheduling. "The
addition of seasonal service to Ireland is an exciting step for US Airways -
we see a great deal of potential in the routes."
US Airways, the US Airways Express carriers and US Airways Shuttle provide
service to 200 destinations worldwide, including 38 states in the U.S. In the
Caribbean, US Airways serves Antigua, Aruba, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda,
Cancun, Cozumel, Grand Bahama Island, Grand Cayman, Montego Bay, Nassau,
Providenciales, San Juan, Santo Domingo, St. Lucia, St. Thomas, St. Maarten,
and St. Croix. US Airways Express also serves North Eleuthera, Governors
Harbour, Marsh Harbour and Treasure Cay from select cities in Florida. In
Canada, US Airways serves Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. US Airways' European
destinations are Amsterdam, Frankfurt, London, Madrid, Manchester, Munich,
Paris and Rome.
From Philadelphia, US Airways currently operates 384 nonstop flights
daily, serving 123 destinations.
 
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PW100
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:22 am

Hmmm, interesting news! Thanks for the link Scott.
I was wondering if they are allowed to launch new routes while being under Chapter 11. I mean, isn't this some form of subsidised route expansion? Under Chapter 11 they don't have to pay their depts, while they expand their route system, hurting the competition that is still strained under their own depts . . .
Or do US Airways expect to have re-emerged from Chapter 11 by the time they start the new route?

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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:33 am

They expect to emerge from Ch. 11 in early spring. Whether or not that will actually occur, remains to be seen.

This route is a nice addition, as PHL has a large Irish population and Aer Lingus, in better financial times, was considering beginning the route. They shouldn't have much trouble filling a 762 in the summer.

Eric
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:39 am

Will they have traffic rights between DUB and SNN?

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Frederic
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:16 am

two quick questions: Is it 2 flights, one to DUB and one to SNN, or one flight going to SNN then to DUB?

Also, US were looking at GLA as a new destination for next summer, has this idea been abandoned, or are we likely to see one of the above legs extended to cover GLA as well? IE PHL->DUB->GLA and back..
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:30 am

Is that really what an almost bankrupt airline wants to do??? Start new international destinations?!?
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:11 pm

U's international routes are among the only ones bringing in cash right now. Almost bankrupt is really a stretch on wording as well. They still have over $800 million in cash to play with now and if it weren't for reorganization costs of some $60-70 million last month, they would have made money for October.
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Thu Dec 05, 2002 1:25 pm

They can maybe model themselves on Continental, with a large East Coast hub feeding multiple trans-Atlantic flights.
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN

Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:10 am

It's an old Irish rule that you must serve both Shannon and Dublin (to protect tourism in Western Ireland). So all flights from the US, even Aer Lingus, continue from SNN to DUB or the reverse (depending upon carrier preference). I believe carriers get SNN-DUB rights, but it's an immensely saturated market with widebodies flying between them!

Steve
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:48 am

According to the US Airways fililng to the DOT, they will be flying TWO flights each day during the summer. One PHL-SNN and another PHL-DUB. The filing makes it clear that it will not be PHL-SNN-DUB, or something similar.
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:45 pm

Do they enough B767-200s left for one or two flights to Ireland?
 
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RE: Finally, US Airways Start New Route PHL To SNN/DUB

Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:28 am

they will probably just take the 767's off of routes between hubs or like one of these routes CLT-MIA, CLT-SJU, CLT-PHL, PIT-PHL, just for the summer

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