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New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:13 am

Pretty JAL Boeing 747-400D  Smile .............

(Note the extra two upper-deck windows to the rear of the extended hump.)  Smile

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 6:03 am

Nice rain shot. Livery very "plain" but better than the old crane logo.

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 6:24 am

If given the chance, I would have replaced the JA(I)L logo with a stylized set of kanji (Chinese characters) that represent the Japanese name for JAL. They are the nation's flag carrier, and since few Japanese airlines utilize Japanese script (ANA seems to be phasing out Japanese titles on their planes in favor of English letters), the fleet of JAL should reflect Japanese culture and tradition, starting with the kanji mentioned above. That would have been a bold design. Just think of the tail design for the BA "Hong Kong" World Planes (bold, brushed Chinese characters), tweaked just a bit to fit the current location of the JAL logo...
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 7:26 am

I didn't like this new JAL livery at first but I kinda like it now though I still think that they should have kept the crane logo.
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:17 am

I agree, bring back the crane!
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 12:19 pm

I want the crane instead of this "JAIL"-bird.

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:22 pm

Isn't that a -300? Where are the winglets?
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:22 pm

My input: The JAL type on the front of the fuselage is quite nice, but the tail.......what to say about the tail.........simply it is HORRID. It is quite possibly the worst tail design in the history of flight.

Bring back the crane!!!!
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:37 pm

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I really don't like the new livery. The old one was much, much better and should have been left alone. The "white" of the new livery makes the red look bland and males the plane look smaller. The "Japan Airlines" font looks too simple and siginifies a less exciting airline. The old tail desing was also much more pleasing to look at and represents the coutry's culture better.

Maybe it will just take a little time for me to get used to it but as of this post, I miss the old colors!
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 3:36 pm

This livery is horrible! I thought the last one was way more exciting (eventhough it was kinda plain too) but this is rediculous! Their planes look ugly, and if I was Japan, I'd be ashamed of my flag carrier.
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:32 pm

Hate it. Reminds me of a slice of watermelon..
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:43 pm

I like it. I am glad to see change. I think it is fresh and modern, very downtown Tokyo! LOL very 21 century. I think JAL will mix its traditions of its company and country through its service that it will offer to its passengers so I think Japan will like its Flag Carrier colors.
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:53 pm

first i hated it, but know it looks o.k. to me - but i miss the crane. all in all it looks very "modern".

N766UA, JAL has a special 747-400 version (747-400 SR, but i'm not sure) for short haul routes which is without winglets...
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:21 am

I do not care for the pink-ish, beige-ish white body of the new livery, and would much prefer the white body they currently have.
If a white crane logo was added to the tail, similar in the scale and placement to Northwest's "N", I think it would be much more interesting, and would maintain a visual tie to the previous couple of liveries.
I find it odd that Japan Airlines insists on using "airlines" rather than "air lines", yet continues to refer to itself as "JAL".
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:24 am

I still have to get used to Japan Airlines' new livery. It does have a more modern appeal, but it still looks kind of plain to me. A small crane the size of the "N" of Northwest on the tail would indeed make the livery more interesting. But I think this livery surely is recognizable from a distance which is the general idea of an airline's livery or corporate brand.

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:06 am

Here's a livery to lift your spirits.....

 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:03 am

A child could have drawn that tail... I wonder how many millions or billions of Yen thay spent to get this? Bring back the Crane this new look is ugly!
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:03 am

I kind of like the new livery, however it could use a bit more color.  Smile

I believe the design company was Landor... http://www.landor.com/tokyo/company/index.cfm?action=showNewsTokyo&storyid=54&lang=ja

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:41 am

Those 2 x-tra windows on the hump, is that the loo?
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Miss the crane on the tail but other than that the livery looks great.
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 10:03 am

They messed it up, really bad. Sorry!
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:29 pm

Im going to semi agree with "Redwarf" for the japanese characters they could put that on somewhere get rid of that stupid red wave across the "A" in JAL and the tail aint to bad but maybe they could have a full red tail with a circle in the middle with the crane inside that circle .

Is this JAL thats in new the c/s only going to do domestic and will any other JAL aircraft be painted into this new c/s ?

A 747-400 without winglets looks stupid.....
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:36 pm

DULL!!!

The current JAL scheme is better than this.It showns no imagination at all!

Nasty.

Just my 2 cents.

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:39 pm

Yuck!!! Too plain, thank you very much . . . I shall continue my sleeping now.  Sleepy

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Sun Dec 08, 2002 11:41 pm

I thought we were in the 21st century for god sake!!!!!!!! I'm sure they could've done better than that!!! Shame on them!!!!!!


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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Mon Dec 09, 2002 1:23 am

Its beginning to grow on me.
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Mon Dec 09, 2002 1:30 am

Are they going for the retro look?
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Mon Dec 09, 2002 12:45 pm

It is easy to understand why so many missed the tsuru (crane), I do too.

But I must admit that given a chance to see the real plane (soon I hope), I might grow to like it. The "water-melon" on the tail actually is a very stylish feature . . . it is just another airline that decides to apply the flag on its tail for patriotic reasons.

Bigo747: A B747-400 without winglets look stupid??? Does this mean a B747-300 look stupid too? There isn't very much to distinguish both planes other than the wingtips. How does a plane look stupid, and how does one look intelligent?

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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:01 pm

I like the new livery especially the tail. Truthfully, I was getting sick of the old livery. Glad to see the change.
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Tue Dec 10, 2002 9:19 pm

I am still curious, though, if anyone has seen an actual aircraft in the new scheme, and how "off-white" the body color really might be...
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:54 pm

UGLY. VERY UGLY. Please bring back the crane!!! I hope this follows the BA WorldTails and is changed to something less avant-garde. The instigators of this logo change were on drugs.
 
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RE: New JAL Livery Discussion

Wed Dec 11, 2002 4:23 am

Sorry to disappoint you Crane lovers, but it had become passe. Glad its gone. By the way I used to love it too and never imagined JAL without it, I am sad that the "Eurowhite" trend is still growing from strength to strength.
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