babaero
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A340-600..A Quality Product

Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:33 pm

Airbus have announced that the first 3 Virgin and first 2 Cathay A340-600 aircraft will require the centre landing gear to be removed before 280cycles due to cracking already being found.

280cycles. Guess there cannot be many left on the 1st VS aircraft.
 
n949wp
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:40 pm

What a crack-up !! Big grin

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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:44 pm

@N949WP

Funny, isn't it? I recommend you to have a look at the issued AD and SB's on Boieing planes. Those findings are "routine" in the airliner maintenance business........ I could tell you stories out of my daily work, that would turn you into a person that never again steps into an airplane........

No real "quality issue" believe me!

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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:46 pm

New aircraft often have teething problems. The 747 when it was first introduced was a mess. And lets not even talk about the infamous cargo door problems of the DC-10.
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n949wp
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:50 pm

Hey, Thomas, lighten up!! I could use a little crack-up myself, being on the 13th straight hour at the office.

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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 7:24 am

Not to stir up anything here, but these are not things that should be used in a A vs B war. Both had and still have their share. A is still trying to explain why they didn't screw up on a not to be named composite tail, while B [former M] is trying to explain why it said it was OK to extend the inspection intervals for some not to be named horizontal jackscrews . . .

Ironic, the example mentioned by the thread starter proves that the aviation safety procedures actually worked, and that everything is being done to maintain safety levels as high as possible.

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boeing777311
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:49 am

should have bought boeing....

but any ways is this a time and cost absorbing check up and will this become routine?

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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:52 am

N949WP, As they always say, If it Cracks up, it ought to be in Crack ups. Why don't you take a crack at the investigation, and see what you find  Big thumbs up
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Ilyushin96M
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:25 am

Reading this is somewhat disconcerting; after all, the A340-600 prototype went through some pretty amazing landing gear tests. Why is it Ilyushin has never had any problems with the centre main gear on the IL-86 or IL-96?
 
AndrewAir
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:54 am

I have to say that the A346 is a nice looking plane but I just dont like Airbus.

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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:26 pm

"Why is it Ilyushin has never had any problems with the centre main gear on the IL-86 or IL-96?"

Because all their resources were put into fixing the problem of uncontained engine failures on the IL-62.
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:12 pm

And from the title of the post I thoght perhaps this would be an intelligent, serious post. I was wrong again. I do understand those that responded jokingly and I have a preference to Boeing myself but all airliners have problems when new, I applaud Airbus for looking for any problems, as would all builders, and letting people know of it before people die.

The A340 is indeed a quality product. Not as good as a 777 but..........
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:31 pm

A340-600 still a fantastic plane!! Airbus for ever Big grin
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IL-62 Engine Failures

Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:55 pm

Lymanm, that was a Kuznetsov failure, not Ilyushin. The issue of uncontained engine failures was addressed by decreasing the number of hours between major overhauls, as well as increasing inspections of the fan disks and related assemblies. The Kuznetsov turbofans were replaced by more reliable, powerful and sturdy Soloviev D30KU turbofans on the IL-62M.
 
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RE: A340-600..A Quality Product

Fri Dec 13, 2002 4:59 pm

949'

You mean you have work to do  Nuts

AndrewAir,

Its a very nice looking plane, have you seen one in person ?.