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SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:26 am

Does anybody know what Singapore Airlines plan is for Singapore to Los Angeles. They will be starting to fly the route non-stop with the Airbus A340-500 but when they get there A380 will they still fly non-stop to Los Angeles with there A340-500?

Will SIA fly non-stop everyday and fly to LAX with the A380 a few days out of the week?

Also do they plan to start A340-500 flights to Vancouver also? Could we also see there A380-100 at SFO?

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gigneil
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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:45 am

Everything I've read about their A380-800 plans indicates you'll definitely see them in Europe, and likely SFO and LAX.

I'm also curious about how the new non-stop routes will fare once the A380 is introduced on those same routes.

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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 12:20 pm

A340-500 will be arriving in late 03/early 04. SIA will launch SIN-LAX non-stop until then. I doubted YVR will get A345.

A380-100 is actually A380-800. SIA will fly A380-800 to LAX and SFO, which requires 1-stop.
 
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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 12:36 pm

A340-500 is planned to operate to LAX non-stop from Nov 3 2003. The next destination on the table is New York possibly followed by San Francisco.

A380 will firstly operate on the SIN-LHR route followed by SIN-HKG-SFO.

Vancouver will definately not see the A340-500.

Singapore is an extremely small country with a small market base. It relys on non Singapore orginating, transit and fifth freedom traffic for the majority of its business so stopovers enroute are sometimes vital. The Vancouver route for example is only sustainable because of the traffic generated by its operation via Seoul and transit traffic from such places as India.

The high yield traffic from LAX to Singapore and vice versa can warrant a low density configured A340-500 with a high proportion of the seats being First or Business. Its these high yield passengers who are asking for non-stop services.

The LAX flights via Tokyo or Taipei do well because of these stopovers. These stops are vital in maintaining the load factors. If an A380 were to operate one it would probably be via Taipei.

So the A380 and A340-500 can operate side by side on some routes. The first route to see both, if at all, I'd guess would be San Francisco and not LAX.

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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 3:04 pm

Didn't know that athe A345 had the range to do SIN-NYC non stop. Interesting. Does this go over the pole?
 
gigneil
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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 3:09 pm

Its pretty much a straight line up and over the pole, yes...



Its only 8287 nm, within the 8650 set out by Airbus. And I'm also assuming they'll have a reduced seating configuration a la CX's A346s.

Hmm. Could QF send a very-limited-seating A345 nonstop SYD-LHR? Would people pay for that? Heh maybe all J class.

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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:01 pm

Can LAX handle an A-380 without terminal and taxiway modifications? There is strong resistance among US airlines to paying for modifications supporting a plane they don't intend to operate.
 
gigneil
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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Wed Dec 18, 2002 6:59 pm

SFO is certainly planning ahead... http://www.flysfo.com

I'm assuming others are following suit, especially since FedEx may wish to land there as well.

Current terminals and certain taxiways were designed with the 80m x 80m box in mind. The A380 fits in that box.

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RE: SIA Singapore-Lax Route Plan?

Thu Dec 19, 2002 1:57 am


Could QF send a very-limited-seating A345 nonstop SYD-LHR? Would people pay for that? Heh maybe all J class.

Sure they could, but doing so would dilute the yield on most of their other flights so much as to negate their useage. If someone has the ability to pay $12,000+ for a 1stop, they probably wouldnt blink at $14,000 or so for a nonstop. If all/most F and J pax chose the nonstop, what incentive do the airlines have to continue their 1stops for steerage pax?
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