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Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:21 am

Why is it that, in other countries, being a flight attendant
is so much more respected, then here in the states?
It seems that here in the states, people just treat them like
trash.

"The low fares airline."
 
bobnwa
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:28 am

I don't think that is correct. Have there been any surveys that state this? I think in the states compared to Europe we are less polite to anyone in any profession.
 
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:31 am

A variety of reasons. In many countries, Flight Attendants are required to be significantly more educated than their US counterparts. For example, Air India will not even accept applications anymore from aspiring FAs without at least a Master's degree or a diploma in Hospitality Management. Additionally, the payscales for Flight Attendants in most developing countries outside the United States are significantly higher (in relation to local per capita incomes), making it both a sought after career path as well as enabling the FAs to support themselves at a relatively higher standard of living.
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AA767400
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:36 am

Bobnwa,

I am saying that, in most other contries, being a flight
attendant is a more respected career. And I don't
think you need a survey to see that.
"The low fares airline."
 
jwenting
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:38 am

The different image of airtravel as a whole in the USA is also to blame.
Flight attendants in the USA are not much different from the guy checking tickets or selling coffee on a train in Europe.
They get treated like trash too (ignored if they're lucky, and get a knife in the chest if not).
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:34 am

I can speak for Asia -- there, air travel is still largely for the upper class, just like it was in the US up until the 1960s, so passengers tend to be more civil and decent. There are very few low-cost carriers there, in the sense of US/Europe. Another reason was that, for most Asian countries, given the male dominance, before the advent of increased globalization and woman's right to careers, being a FA was about the only way a girl could get out of her home country and see the world.

It wasn't unusual for irlines like CI, SQ, CX, etc. accepted about 2 or 3 out of every 100 FA applicants, so FA was and still is a prestigious position in Asia.
 
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:39 am

Pretty much like Ryu2 said, it was extremely prestigious to be a flight attendant during the 60s and 70s in East Asian countries. I know that in Taiwan particularly, becoming at flight attendant at CI was very glamorous as it was one of the only ways to leave the country and see the world. Nowadays however, the prestige has largely faded away as almost everyone can travel if they have the money.
 
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:53 am

There was a BA here awhile ago and I asked him a similar question, actually, it was about the gay stereotype. He said in the UK, most people do it for the money as apparently with the majors(BA,VS,BM), being an FA can bring in some serious money.

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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 10:32 am


I actually think it is indicative of how Americans treat people in a service environment, more so than American FA's being treated less favourably as a rule. This attitude is potentially driven by the service culture that has developed in the United States, which is a leader with regards to the development of a service industry driven economy.

The only other people who I have whitnessed being equally "demanding" of service staff is the French. It is nothing personal against the French or Americans, but more so a natural evolution of their advanced service industrys'.

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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:30 pm

seans right its a variety of reason.

the us is just a much more pragmatic, efficient society. we sort of see things as they are with far less pomp and circumstance as our old world friends the pond over.

what are flight attendants really? remove the fancy history, uniforms, and sex appeal and you've got people who serve you shitty sandwiches or a half a cup of ginger ale. in that 1 and 10,000 chance your life is at risk, they help you save it, but that happens so infrequently, it just slips the mind and perception of the average traveler.

americans are just too stressed, busy, and cheap to really care or celebrate the flight attendent or "steward" or "purser".

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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:20 pm

Let's also not forget that there is a prevailing attitude with US F/A's these days (and, before y'all flame the crap out of me, I know its not all F/A's) among some F/A's that "My job is to save your a$$, not kiss it!" With an attitude like that, is it any wonder that the general traveling public views F/A's with indifference? I have heard this statement numerous times from US F/A's but I have yet to hear it from a foreign carriers' F/A's. Maybe that is why the difference in respect - its proportional to the respect given by the F/A's themselves! Just my opinion...I could be wrong  Smile

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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Fri Dec 20, 2002 3:09 am

I think that these are all valid statements, but it still seems
like even if the flight attendants are nice and service
oriented, people here tend to really have this hate towards
them. Then again, maybe it's just all the trashy people that
have been able to fly these days. I think being a F/A
in the U.S., is a crappy, uneducated job. At least that is
what the view here in the states is.
"The low fares airline."
 
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RE: Why Is It That, In Other Countries

Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:15 am

Are flight attendants really more respected in europe? I doubt that.
A girl that I know worked some time for a european airline (NG), and she told awfull stories. She got clapped on her "butt" regulary, espescially on flights from Vienna to Bangkok and Pukhet. A lot of male passengers happened to be very rude, and obscene in a way.
And I pesonally have often seen rude passengers on many european airlines. Last time on a LH 747-400, a man didn't accept any comands from a female flight attendant (e.g. not to stand in the aisle during refueling), so ultimately the flight attendant had to call the Captain. When the Captain came she had allready tears in her eyes, so rude had the man been. In front of the Captain (a tall man of about 55 Years or so), the rude man became quickly silent.