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US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 9:10 pm

As Stansted is being hailed the "new Heathrow" by the British Government, huge focus is being placed on the growth of the airport.

Would a US airline theoretically be allowed to switch all of its Gatwick flights to STN while beefing up frequency to The States, and offer connections via air from STN to LCY onboard an aircraft (operating in a shuttle, quick-turn manner) such as the ARJ-85 or Dash 8-300? The segment could not be sold as a separate STN-LCY flight, of course, but could be touted as a continuation service to the heart of London.

If the answer is yes, would this option actually be a good idea? Is LCY that convenient for the majority of business travellers into London? Would a LCY spur flight be more convenient than, say, taking the train from STN into the city?

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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 9:14 pm

Why not fly to MAN, AMS, CDG and get a connection to LCY ?  Smile

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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 9:29 pm

The point is to serve London as a city, not LCY or STN as destination airports. The LCY extension would be more of a train or coach-like service to downtown, rather than a connection airport (if that makes sense...). The LCY service would in a way compete with the train for bringing STN passengers into the city, but would be offered more as a customer perk--seamless service to Downtown with the airline versus travelling by a completely different means on an entirely separate company. Otherwise, a nice hop over to MAN and then to LCY would be perfect!

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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 9:34 pm

It would be more practicle to improve the current Stansted Express train service to Liverpool Street Station which is a lot closer to the city than LCY.
Currently the train takes 45 minutes but it runs very slow and has some stops so it shouldn't be difficult to convert it into a high speed no stop connection.
Another option could be to extend some underground lines to STN like the Piccadilly does for Heathrow.
But if you look at a map of London you can see how close to the centre is LHR compared to either Stansted, Gatwick and Luton so it will be hard to beat it.

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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:04 pm

How about buying some niche German "Transrapid" magnetic monorails and travel with 250mph to the city centre - like the chinese have done for Shanghai-Pudong Airport (the vehicles are actually no monorails, but I don't know the correct technical term in English)  Wink/being sarcastic

Airport charges at LCY are horrendous (Europe's most expensive airport), so I am not sure if your plan would be feasible economically (in addition to the problems that LCY has limited space at peak hours and probably would not want to waste slots for a STN service). Why not use the Battersea heliport for a heli-shuttle ...  Wink/being sarcastic And as suggested, from AMS it is only a short across the Channel to LCY - probably not much longer than from STN when it comes to travel time....
 
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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:05 pm

When I first read the topic I saw an AA 777 land at LCY...
As mentioned above it makes more sense to fly to CDG, FRA, AMS or elsewhere than to fly to STN and then take a connection to LCY as that would in the end take more time than the Stansted Express.
But after I have been to STN I can say that I wouldn't really want to land there coming from far away...

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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:17 pm

No way LCY or LGW. It's "Hounslow/Heath" for me, baby, now and forever!
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RE: US Airline Service To London City?

Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:20 pm

With our railway system, don't think any upgrade would happen for a lon long time, I mean, it is even possible to link West Coast mainline (manchester,Birmingham) to Heathrow through a junction in West London, but yet nothing happens.
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