roadrunner165
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UPS 747-100

Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:01 pm




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I'm curious, How many 747-100s do UPS have? Do they have any plans to get rid of them? What will UPS replace them with?


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dripstick
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RE: UPS 747-100

Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:18 pm

I believe they currently have around ten 100's and eight 200's.

Not sure about their retirement though. Hopefully not soon.

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RE: UPS 747-100

Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:20 pm

several have recently been sent to ROS for stroage.
 
na
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RE: UPS 747-100

Sun Jan 12, 2003 6:11 pm

The 747-100Fs are being retired one by one already, the first being the 32 year old ex-Pan Am-Birds. There was a post a few weeks back about two being retired at the end of 2002, N681UP being one of them. But I don´t know until when the rest of these very old birds are leaving. All the ex-AA 747-123s are still going strong. And they´ve been built back in 1970.

In the last years UPS aquired 747-200Fs one by one. Maybe they keep doing that, but I could also see them being a possible buyer of older 747-400s for SF-modification later.
But there are definitely no published plans about what´s going on at UPS in this matter.

Btw, Evergreen is in the same situation, their average fleet-age is even higher.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:45 am

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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:44 am

UPS currently operates 16 747s, 9 -100s and 6 -200s. Actually the ex-AA -100s are being retired before the ex Pan Am -100s. N671UP and N674UP, both ex AA -100s were placed into storage at ROW last month. N527UP was returned to the lessor. The latest retirement plan that I heard was all the -100s would be gone by 2005, with the ex Pan Am planes being the last ones to go and the -200s being returned to the lessor when it's lease expires, with the four owned by UPS, (N520-23UP), being retired in 2007.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:46 am

One correction to my above post, we currently have 7 -200s not 6.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:52 am

If anyone is interested the current 747 lineup at UPS is N672UP, 673, 675, 676, 677, 680, 681, 682, 683 all -100s. N520UP, 521, 522, 523, 525, 526, 528 all -200s.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:23 pm

I tried to check the UPS website for some info about which routes they deploy their 747s on. I was not successful. Could someone please help me with this info.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:29 pm

Browntailwhale,
thanks for the info. Interesting and irritating UPS has a retirement plan up to 2007 but no plans for replacements.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:40 pm

Browntailwhale,

I heard a long while ago that UPS was in talks with United about buying some of their 744s. Is that deal no longer under consideration?
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:13 am

UPS is looking into replacements for the current fleet of 747s. Senior management has stated in a pilot group meeting a couple of months ago that UPS has narrowed the choices to 3 types, the 747-400F, A340-600F, 777-300F. The last two types do not exist yet. Management said they would like to have the new plane in service by 2007. The latest rumor, relayed by a management pilot, is that at least two management pilots went to Boeing and recieved 777 type ratings. This leads me to believe that the 777-300F is a very real possibility because there is no way UPS would send a couple of managers to get 777 type ratings just for the heck of it.
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Thu Jan 16, 2003 10:47 am

Any rumors of UPS getting converted pax 747-400s?
 
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RE: UPS 747-100

Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:35 am

747's fly out of PHL on the following routes
PHL-SDF(3 or 4x daily)
PHL-Cologne
PHL-ONT
PHL-OAK (off and on)

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