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Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:53 am

After flying through PIT, I began to wonder which airports operate trams between terminals, etc. PIT, MCO, TPA, ATL, ....................
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:58 am

MSP from terminal to transportation.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:00 pm

Fly_ATA:

And now a new tram running along A - B - C concourses is operational, and will start serving the public shortly (a few short weeks.) I saw it actually running yesterday.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:11 pm

If plans for the new Term 4 stay on track, FLL will have a tram installed. But that will not happen till 2006-7 at the soonest.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:24 pm

The new Detroit terminal and Newark are two that come to mind.
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:29 pm

SFOs is almost ready for operations, I think middle 2003

Around the airport/terminal to terminal

also BART, or metro train, should be online sooner than later.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:42 pm



O'Hare has the rubber-tired tram that goes from the remote parking to the terminals. Although it has a stop at each of the terminals, it isn't that practical to go between terminals with it since it's outside security and across the road.

Although you would need to use it to get to/from the international terminal and all of the others.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:45 pm

Add Denver, Chicago, and Dallas/Ft. Worth.
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:48 pm

Jhooper:

Do they have trams at DFW? I thought those were covered wagons.
(Sorry, but those things are so decrepit and slow, they are an embarassment to DFW. Are they ever going to be replaced?)

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:51 pm

Denver has the fastest Airport People Mover (APM) system in the world in terms of actual speed.

It reaches 60mph and is completely underground like ATL's. Just like a subway.



You can get information about it here:
http://www.leaelliott.com/denverproj.html

Bombardier is another major producer of APM's which makes the ones used in ATL.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:54 pm

Sorry, but those things are so decrepit and slow, they are an embarassment to DFW. Are they ever going to be replaced?

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Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:55 pm

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:56 pm

now is the ones at IAD considered as TRAMS?
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:06 pm

JFK, ATL, MCO, LAS, ORD, DFW, EWR
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:07 pm

DFW's new one is supposed to replace the old decrepid looking ones that haven't been replaced since probably the opening of DFW. The new ones are on elevated tracks and have stops at 2 points at each terminal. The stations are airside too and there should be some nice spotting from up there as well as it runs on top of the terminal. As for the overall speed, I don't know. I do know it is officially called SkyLink.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:09 pm

Bush IAH in Houston actually has two now, the old underground link and the new elevated Tram from B to C (mainly for Continental) which is to be extended.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:12 pm

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:30 pm

SEA has two loops. One that goes to the North Satellite and one that goes to the South Satellite. They are underground. Make sure you hold on when it stops. I made the mistake of not holding on... The lady I flew into probably was not to happy of where I landed on her.
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:03 pm

JFK's tram is not yet operational. Following the accident during the trials, when an individual died, the timeline for starting service has been pushed back.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:22 pm

Just an interesting bit of trivia, but from what I understand that clanky, sluggish, old train downstairs at IAH was actually designed by, or at least with the help of, Disney!

Guess they were going for a monorail effect or something. Anyone who has taken a corner in the IAH tram versus one in the Disney monorail can attest to the fact that they came up a bit short at IAH. Hold on tight.

Can't wait for the TerminaLink to be completed at IAH. Not only is it much quicker and more convenient, but it provides for excellent views of the airfield.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:57 pm

If I remember correctly LAS has some type of tram, correct?
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:30 pm

I remember that I used trams (trains) at:

KUL (KLIA) / Malaysia - between C Terminal and main terminal
SIN (Changi) / Singapore - between Terminal 1 and 2
NRT (Tokyo-Narita) / Japan - Terminals connected with main terminal
KIX (Kansai-Osaka) / Japan - within terminal
ZRH (Zurich) / Switzerland - Midfield Dock connected with "main" terminal
FRA (Frankfurt) / Germany - Terminal connected
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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 12:24 am

LAS has a similar system to the one at ORD-on a smaller scale though.

STN and LGW also have people mover systems IIRC, so does LHR but it's a real train called Heathrow Express which is free between terminal 4 and the central area (there is also the Picadilly line but that costs £1.


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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 12:34 am

The SFO system that is now planned for mid 2003 startup only connects the terminal with the rental-car parking lot.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:17 am

DTW's new Worldgateway has one in the main concourse.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:05 am

Dusseldorf has a skytram that connects the railway station, the parking garage and the terminal.
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:45 pm

Not exactly a tram, but HNL has the Wiki Wiki shuttle that will take you to your gate in the Diamond Head and Ewa concourses in the overseas terminal and from the interisland terminal to your gate in the overseas terminal.

There is a plan to replace the old, diesel, non-air conditioned shuttle buses with air conditioned electric buses
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:30 pm

The JFK Airtrain has been suspended indefinately hasn't it? Will it ever get completed? STT757?

The EWR train is great and very conveniently located inside and above the airport's three terminals.

MIA had plans to build a tram between the rebuilt airport and a brand new intermodal station to be build just east of the airport on Le Jeune Road. Wonder if that'll ever happen.

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RE: Airports With Trams

Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:49 pm

MIA does have a train/tram between the main terminal and the Concourse E satellite. Unfortunately, the poor design of the airport means that one must exit and re-clear security to reach American's other gates and vice-versa :P One of the reasons I try to avoid connections at MIA (among several others).

One of SEPTA's transit lines makes stops at most of the PHL terminals, but it's not really an airport tram per se (and you'd hardly want to wait 30 minutes to get to the next terminal...)
 
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RE: Airports With Trams

Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:07 pm

DAL (Love Field) had a monorail many years ago, but it was taken down after WN took over the terminal.

MCI is supposed to get some sort of APM over the next few years. For now, it uses busses to transfer pax between terminals and from satellite lots. Shuttles x-fer pax from the terminals to off-airport parking and rental cars.

TPA has a monorail built by Bombardier for about as cheap as any APM has ever come.

If IAH is working with Disney, bet on Monorail. After taking a PR beating when Disney talked about doing away with the Monorail, Disney has since taken up the "cause" (if you will) of Monorail, promoting it as transit, which was the reason Walt put it in Disney Land and Disney World/Epcot, anyway.

EWR's Monorail is about the best example of how not to build ANYTHING, let alone monorail, in the world. After changing contractors in mid-construction, the system had many problems at first. So far it seems that things have been fixed. Only time will tell.
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RE: Airports With Trams

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:22 pm

The EWR train is great and very conveniently located inside and above the airport's three terminals.

Not to mention to the train station, for the 20 minute ride into Manhattan! Big grin
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RE: Airports With Trams

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:56 pm

I know TPA has been mentioned, but besides the one's that go from landside to airside, there's my favorite which is the mini one that goes around the parking garage (The night I spent there waiting for my flight to APF, I spent almost the entire night riding around in that thing out of shear boredom (When I wasn't night spotting from the top floor of the parking garage!).
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RE: Airports With Trams

Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:20 pm

IAD will have trams soon. What it has now are called "People Movers".

Obviously DEN and ATL do... since they're the same airport design basically, of course excluding that DEN is attractive and ATL is utilitarian.

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