JvW
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Strange B767...

Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:46 am

Strange to see these B767 with Rolls Royce engines mounted under their wings. PW and GE engines are just so common all around the world...


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Why were the RR engines such a failure with the airlines?

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RE: Strange B767...

Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:16 am

I don't think the RR engines for the 767 were a "failure". I think that RR was just the "short kid in the tall crowd".

But you're right......I don't know of a major other than British Airways and Qantas getting their 767's with RR's on them.
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RE: Strange B767...

Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:20 am

Not very popular with the airlines for popularity, and technical reasons.

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RE: Strange B767...

Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:05 am

However, the RR engines seem the prefered choice for , B757,B777 and A330 operators  Smile
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Mr AirNZ
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RE: Strange B767...

Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:20 am

I understand that the RR engines on the 763 are much heavier than the GE and P&W and that was one of the reasons they were not as successful. Just A side note. The 7 Qantas RR 763's are all ex-BA machines and the rest of the -300 fleet has GE's.
 
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:19 am

Some of QFs 767s are also PW powered. They have the distinction of operating all three engine types on their 767s.
 
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:43 am

Only BA and China Southern(?) ordered 763s with RR engines. They are a bit heavier than the GE or PW powered a/c, and they don't burn any less fuel.
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:58 am

If I'm not mistaken the extra weight also created cracks in the pylons on the BA birds.
 
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:11 am

Looks like China Yunnan in the picture above. Are RB211 engines heavier in general than their GE and PW counterparts?

This is a bit off topic but I read that the Trent 800 is about a 1,000 lbs lighter than a GE90 and is a selling point.
 
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:28 am

However, the RR engines seem the prefered choice for , B757,B777 and A330 operators

True, RR was the undoubted favorite engine choice for the 777 A-market; but RR is quickly losing ground to GE in newer 777ER/LR orders and may have already been surpassed.

Of course, GE's exclusivity on the 59 current 777NG has helped it with this, but the Trent895's embarrassing inability to gain orders outside of BA (go figure.. oh, and there's the small one by LY) has also allowed the GE90-94B to sail by in the 93,000lbs+ category as well.
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RE: Strange B767...

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:39 am

It also offers less thrust then the GE or PW powerplants, according to Boeing's web site.

PW4062 63,300 lb
GE CF-6-80C2B7F 62,100 lb
RR RB211-524H 59,500 lb
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