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COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:30 am


To let everyone know. COA is using a Boeing 767-400 from DEN to IAH, on #1123. I am assuming this was prob a last minute equipment change on the inbound flight. Maybe someone can fill in as to why.

Still very cool. Would be great if the B764 Service was everyday. I know all of us Denver spotters would like that. Right guys?


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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:32 am

Aircraft substitutions are nothing out of the ordinary, especially at Continental. It happens all the time. The chance of a 767-400 operating daily on DEN-IAH is next to ZERO.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:35 am

#1123 was supposed to be op'd by a 757-200 today.

Well even if it won't ever fly regularly to DEN, was still cool it op'd here today.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 7:30 am

The chance of a 767-400 operating daily on DEN-IAH is next to ZERO.

How would you know? While I agree it's not likely that Continental will ever operate a 764 to DEN daily, how can you be so sure it will never happen?

Delta flies several 767s (both, 762s and 763s) to DEN. What makes you think Continental won't one day fly widebodies to DEN?

Especially if they do a major build up again.....
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:42 am

I was on AA 1123 and that was DFW-DEN, and it eqiup. change was to a 767-300 from a 757. This was like 5 years ago
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:05 am

BA-

While we're being ridiculous, what's to say the Earth won't explode tomorrow?  Insane Or that Southwest won't ever order B-747 equipment?

He's giving his opinion based historical precedents, and on all the information available to him as a CO employee. I'd say he's probably right, so while we all know that there's no way to give an "iron-clad, 100% with absolute certainty" guarantee that it will never happen, odds are that CO will never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 764s.

So let's not split hairs, ok?
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:15 am

EA CO AS,

My point is CO flying a 764 is not ridiculous and and may very well happen. After all, Delta flies 767s to Denver. Why is it so shocking that another major airline will 767s to Denver? Absolutely nothing. He completely ruled out that possibility and that's what I'm arguing about.

odds are that CO will never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 764s.

I absolutely disagree with this statement. People said CO would never run scheduled DEN-IAH service using 757s. Guess what? They now have 2 daily flights that are on 757s and during other times of the year, they have 3 daily flights on 757s. During the summer, they bring in 757-300s. People said Denver would never see 757-300s by CO in Denver. What makes you think a 764 will never happen? While I agree that a 764 chance is still pretty slim, it's not "next to ZERO" as ContinentalEWR said.

So let's not split hairs, ok?

I should be saying that statement to you. I'm not the one who's using a moody tone and asking rhetorical questions.....
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:24 am

To me this is a stupid argument.....let it go.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:04 am

My father is a retired CO captain and we live here in DEN. Even though he is retired, He still flies between DEN and IAH every week. He used to go out of COS until they made most of the flights ERJs. Anyway a few weeks ago they substituted a 777 on an IAH-DEN instead of the 757 it was originally supposed to be. Before people scoff in disbelief, this is from a person who knows what they're talking about (a 36 year old airline veteran) and who was actually on the flight.
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:14 am

This isn't the first time they are substituting with a 764. It's happened several times in the past. Some days they are having very high load days and I think this boom of passengers is relatively recent.

Just 2 years ago, Continental did not fly 1 757 to DEN. The largest aircraft at the time was a 738, then they started flying 739s, and now they have 2 daily 757s and a 3rd during parts of the year.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:17 am

Klwright69, I have too seen a Continental 777 in Denver. If I remember correctly, it was flying Toyko to Newark and diverted to Denver due to snowstorms on the entire east coast.
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:23 am

That's interesting that they would divert to Denver on a NRT-EWR run. That's waaay out of the way. Canada, hell even ORD would have been a better option that diverting to Denver.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 3:49 pm

I seriously doubt we would divert a 777 to DEN off an NRT-EWR run, pretty far out of the way on that flight plan. NRT-IAH seems a lot more realistic, maybe that was the case?

As for 767s coming to DEN,

767s have been there in the past, usually on equipment substitutions or the rare delivery flight from Seattle (we brought a 767-200 to Houston by way of DEN a year or two ago), and almost always on flights to Houston. I'm not going to rule out us ever flying 767s to DEN, but if the airline was to continue with its three existing hubs and basic fleet structure, then we simply would not have enough 767s to offer a daily flight to DEN. More 757 flights would probably happen first.

And don't forget, DL flies 767s everywhere. It's not a fair comparison. We have 26 767s, they have about 106.
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:15 pm

I too thought Denver was quite out of the way. I'm pretty sure I was told it was bound for EWR, I seriously doubt it was IAH, not too many snowstorms down there.  Big thumbs up

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:58 pm

These are the Continental departures out of DEN on the 11th Jan 2001, dont have time tl look through the schedules to see if any were odd flight numbers, although there are no listed diversions for that day to Den on Continental or for the 10th

CO 01/11/2001 0028 N77827 EWR 12:45
CO 01/11/2001 0372 N16084 IAH 16:33
CO 01/11/2001 0400 N72822 EWR 7:18
CO 01/11/2001 0402 N76355 EWR 10:51
CO 01/11/2001 0408 N77303 EWR 18:25
CO 01/11/2001 0488 N13248 IAH 19:50
CO 01/11/2001 0584 N14242 IAH 14:27
CO 01/11/2001 1298 N17328 CLE 15:43
CO 01/11/2001 1441 N12319 IAH 11:42
CO 01/11/2001 1486 N73385 CLE 9:10
CO 01/11/2001 1668 N34838 IAH 6:38
CO 01/11/2001 1726 N936AS IAH 17:43
CO 01/11/2001 1882 N69803 IAH 9:02
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:02 am

Artsyman, Dude. It "WAS NOT" a diversion. It was an equipment "SUB." Operated by a 767-400 for a 757-200 on flight #1123 DEN-IAH. Thats it, no more, no less. To verify this, I called COA. Enough Said!

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:20 am

Pre 9-11 CO was flying a DC-10 daily between IAH and ORD, I would not be suprised by a CO IAH-DEN 767 flight. Although as someone previously mentioned look for more 757s first, also if things get worse at UAL (which there is a 50/50 chance of) CO is making a move on DEN.
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:02 am

N16084- looks like a DC-10 rego to me. The rest are 737s and MD-80s for Jan. 11.
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:59 am

This is a really stupid argument. I think right now, the chances of a daily DEN-IAH on a 767-400 are not great, but who knows in the future....Yes Delta does fly 767's into Denver, but folks, Delta is one of the few US airlines that operates widebodies on a number of domestic routes other than transcons or intra-hub operations.....
 
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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:08 am

Artsyman, Dude. It "WAS NOT" a diversion

err...umm I was refering to the post about the guy who was mentioning the 777 being diverted to DEN in 2001, not your 764 question. Maybe take a pill for that short temper.

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RE: COA#1123 DEN-IAH Today As 767-400

Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:15 am

CO 01/11/2001 0028 N77827 EWR 12:45 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 0372 N16084 IAH 16:33 - DC10
CO 01/11/2001 0400 N72822 EWR 7:18 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 0402 N76355 EWR 10:51 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 0408 N77303 EWR 18:25 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 0488 N13248 IAH 19:50 - 738
CO 01/11/2001 0584 N14242 IAH 14:27 - 738
CO 01/11/2001 1298 N17328 CLE 15:43 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1441 N12319 IAH 11:42 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1486 N73385 CLE 9:10 - 733
CO 01/11/2001 1668 N34838 IAH 6:38 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 1726 N936AS IAH 17:43 - MD80
CO 01/11/2001 1882 N69803 IAH 9:02 - MD80

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