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Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:15 am

Daily (business days) non-stop to YWG, weekend non-stop to YYC. See below

WestJet Announces All-Jet Service to Windsor, Ontario
Thursday January 23, 10:01 am ET


CALGARY, Alberta--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 23, 2003--WestJet (TSX:WJA - News) today announced that it is adding service to the new Ontario market of Windsor (starting April 1, 2003).
WestJet will offer non-stop service each business day between Winnipeg and Windsor, as well as weekend non-stop service between Windsor and Calgary. Introductory one-way fares between Winnipeg and Windsor will start as low as $99, and one-way fares between Windsor and Calgary will start as low as $179. Seats are available for sale immediately.

Bill Lamberton, WestJet's Vice-President of Marketing and Sales, commented today: "We are pleased to announce our entry into the market of Windsor-the eighth city in Ontario to receive our unique brand of fun, friendly, low-fare jet service.

"With our entrance into Windsor, over five million people within 65 km of the city will be a short drive away from WestJet's low-fares and our Canada-wide network. Windsor residents will no longer have to fly east through Toronto when travelling west. Western Canadians and those living in Windsor will finally have a real choice in low-fare travel when visiting friends, family, and business associates."

From Windsor, WestJet will offer service to the following western Canadian destinations: Victoria, Comox, Vancouver, Abbotsford/Fraser Valley, Prince George, Kelowna, Calgary, Edmonton, Grande Prairie, Fort McMurray, Saskatoon, Regina, and Winnipeg.

 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:20 am

And Slawko says ........
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:22 am

$99 Fare...so with the 100bucks in taxes thats a nice 400bucks round trip! a Nice $600 return trip to YYC...What a joke this country is....Jetblue JFK-DEN which is a further distance is 246.50 bucks return! The liberals are destroying this country...something needs to be done...end of rant.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:23 am

This is diffently good news for the City of Windsor. Since AC Tango pulled out of Windsor-Winnipeg this past summer, it will be very intresting to see how they do. With about 5 million people living in the Windsor-Detroit area I am sure the flights to both Winnipeg and Calgary will be filled with ppl going skiing etc.

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:30 am

The close proximity to Detroit will surely hurt Windsor's chances of a lot of expansion, taking into account what Slawko has said regarding lower prices overall in the United States. But as long as the demand exists between Canadian cities being offered, things should work out for WJ. We don't need to talk about the taxes anymore, because we're all aware of their impact.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:33 am

YUL-YYZ Tango..

Base Fare: $187

After Taxes: $320.61

WHAT THE F*&K??

Tax breakdown....

Navcan and Surcharges $60.00

Canada Airport Improvement Fee $10.00

Taxes

Canada Quebec Sales Tax $21.62
Canada Security Charge $22.43
Canada Goods and Service Tax $19.56

This doesnt inclyde the $17.25 to fly out of YUL...

$60 for Nav Canada.......... comeone.....

Mark
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 3:07 am

The liberals are destroying this country...

I agree.....so stop voting for them. Unless you're willing to vote Alliance, you can't complain about taxes.

Regarding WJ in YQG.....this is great news. More inroads by WJ into Ontario. This is the 8th Ontario city for WJ. Yahoo!

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:22 am

YYZ717 I am and Do...  Smile
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:29 am

While this is good news for the city of Windsor, it could possibly even better news for YWG. Introduction of Windsor's service is operating nearly exact to how YXU's service began, which is now 2 daily flights. It seems Westjet is interested is building up YWG for connecting opportunities. I assume the service will be flown with 73G's. While those taxes are ridiculous, remember that the $60 for Navcan helps make Navcan entirely user funded.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:05 am

Spyderz, I'm not so sure it's a positive thing that NavCanada is entirely user funded. NavCanada is a government entity, and as such is funded by the people. If you make it funded by user fees, it means less people are paying more. There are pros and cons to this of course, but it also means that it doesn't help demand for air travel. It hurts the industry that in the end NavCanada is being supported by. Just a thought really, I'm not sure which way is better as a whole.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:40 am

Slawko, I couldn't agree more, my friggen ticket to Australia is going to be $300 bucks in Taxes. WTF..... I am sick of paying such high taxes on everything. But what can I do I guess? The more I live here the more mad I am getting.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:41 am

Sudbury, Sault Ste. Marie, Thunder Bay, London,
Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, Windsor...hmm

Neil, would you agree with me that Ontario is underserved?  Big thumbs up

BTW - there is a separate press release for Detroit media as well.

http://www2.cdn-news.com/newsnet/current/0123055n.html?cp=wja

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:17 am

Captaingomes - I was under the impression that Nav Canada was not a government entity, and not funded by Ottawa. From their website:

"NAV CANADA is the non-share capital, private corporation that owns and operates Canada's civil air navigation service (ANS)."

User fees are a huge revenue earner for them, which unfortunately, gets passed on to the passenger. I do not blame the Nav Canada user fee, I am against the federal taxes - specifically the Security Fee (and of course the GST/PST). If security had actually been improved in the past 16 months, then perhaps it can be justified. But superficially at least, I don't see much difference.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:24 am

Nuno who told you Navcan was a government entity?? The old ATC system was a division of Transport but Navcan is a corporation, Transport is only responsible for regulation and enforcement, other then that they have nothing to do with navcan....
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:45 am

Navcan is nominally a not-for-profit entity, but they are responsible for raising their own revenue to cover their expenses. They are actually lauded around the world as THE efficient ATC system to emulate.

Neil, would you agree with me that Ontario is underserved?

Hey Andy, NO CITY is underserved by any airline!  Big thumbs up

I wonder what the 9th Ontario city that WJ serves will be? I really can't think of a SINGLE Canadian city that WJ should still add service to. All the large prosperous ones are already served.......

Seriously, I'm surprized that WJ does not operate the Yellowknife or Whitehorse where the yields are so high.

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:45 am

Me being a YYC boy you don't even want to get me started on the Liberals.

The taxes for Albertans would be a little lower because of no PST, but it's still way too high.

Security tax my ass, how has security improved? The money probably pays for french kids to go skiing.

It's good to see though that more Eastern Canadians are getting fed up and are changing their voting decisions. As most of you know, Liberals don't even stand a chance in the West (well the hippie tree-huggers in BC's interior would vote for them, not that they'd remember when voting day was though). The Liberals are hated the most here in Alberta. They might as well not even campaign out here. We're getting sick of paying more money to the feds than any other province so the Liberals can subsidize a province in which many of it's citizens don't even want to be Canadian, talk about biting the hand that feeds you. But anyway, enough about that, I'm glad I live in YYC and in Stephen Harpers riding  Smile

Good news for Windsor and Winnipeg. Good to see WJ expanding with intellingence and not biting off more than they can chew.


Regards,
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:06 am

I argree with you Spydez on what you said about Winnipeg. I think Winnipeg is actually considred a westjet hub cause we do get alot of westjet flights and quite a few connecting pax trough here on a daily basis. Since Westjet started service in Winnipeg back in 1996 they have sure built up the Winnipeg for flights as it is considered a "major focus city". I hope the loads will be descent. This is also good news for Detroit Red wings fans here as well.

My thoughts

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:28 am

Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad...... especially when you get to know that Windsor is the size of a Montreal suburb!

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:51 am

Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad......

Oh brother. WJ is an AIRLINE. Its raison d'etre is to MAKE MONEY.

WJ doesn't fly to PEI or the NWT either.....does that mean that WJ does not think that PEI or the NWT is part of Canada??????

Your comments never cease to amaze me.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:58 am

I stand corrected regarding NavCanada. You learn something new every day, and I didn't know they were privately run. In that case, the user fees make sense, and I don't have a problem with them.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 11:25 am

"Your comments never cease to amaze me."

-Hey, im contraversial.... but I do make sense.

If WestJet can survive in Windsor, Thunder Bay, Saskatoon etc.. it can more than survive in Montreal..... point final..

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:16 pm

I believe WJ and the Dorval Airport Authority are having problems coming to agreements on slots and gates. Montreal being AC headquarters might have something to do with Dorval's unwillingness to cooperate.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:46 pm

Seriously, I'm surprized that WJ does not operate the Yellowknife or Whitehorse where the yields are so high.

Wow thats the first time I have heard someone from other than here say that, I am impressed.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:05 am

Montreal being AC headquarters might have something to do with Dorval's unwillingness to cooperate.

The ADM would not show favouritism to AC by not negotiating in good faith with other airlines. Indeed, the ADM is actually rather desperate to build traffic at YUL, given Dorval's drop from 1st to 3rd place among Canadian airports, with YYC challenging for 3rd place.

The primary reason is obviously a lack of market opportunity for WJ in YUL.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:12 am

"The primary reason is obviously a lack of market opportunity for WJ in YUL."

-And how would you be bold enough to determine this? There tons of article in La Presse and Gazette in the last year, praising WestJet..... then when asking Beddoe about Montreal "We will serve Montreal by the end of the year".. I recently wrote a report about them for class, i've got articles dated in 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002 with the same stuff.

Again market popularity is defined by the size of its market. Montreal in terms of travel domestically, it still a bigger market than ottawa, thunder bay, winnipeg, Edmonton, YVR/YYZ/YYC are the only ones that are bigger. Arguably, they're domestic networks have been more than perpetuated by the abundance of low-fare routes that are not consolidated on one (for example a good portion of YUL's low fare is YULYYZ)..

Now there is good talk that WJ wants YHU. If they go to YHU, they are adding to the woes of the airport system in this city, we are closing Mirabel for a reason, the last thing we need is YHU to open for the likes of JetsGone, CannedJet and WorstJet....... thannk god the ADM is trying to get control of this airport....

Mark

 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:49 am

I believe WJ and the Dorval Airport Authority are having problems coming to agreements on slots and gates. Montreal being AC headquarters might have something to do with Dorval's unwillingness to cooperate.

Negetive, ADM isn't favoring anyone, ADM is cooperating. I think WJ's desire to go to YHU is the only thing that is delaying WJ.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:47 am

Seems that every time that WJA announces a new city there's is a couple of good posts praising the airline and then the eventual "well what about YUL?" comes about.

There may be a possibility that ADM isn't giving the deal in the way of gates, and fees that WJ wants so that's why Montreal isn't a WJ City yet, also there may be a massive conspiracy to keep WJ out of Montreal *heavy sarcasm off*.

When WJ gets the deal it wants, it will go into Montreal. YUL if the rates and fees are good, and YHU if they ever get a terminal.

And WJ wants to go into la belle province, the logistics of it haven't been worked out. Look at the website. It's still in English only. WJ books a lot of people through the website.

I think that a true sign of Quebec expansion will be a retooling of the website to accommodate French speaking guests. You'll be seeing either YUL, YHU or YQB very soon after that.

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:34 am

I think that a true sign of Quebec expansion will be a retooling of the website to accommodate French speaking guests.

I don't see US airlines adding French to the websites because they serve YUL. If WJ adds YUL, it will want to do so in a cost effective fashion, which probably means not having to become a bilingual airline. Indeed, WJ could probably add de facto "English-only" service to YUL and still be successful in that market. People tend to forget that YUL is still Canada's 3rd largest English speaking city.

The primary reason is obviously a lack of market opportunity for WJ in YUL."

-And how would you be bold enough to determine this?


Simple.......it's because they have not added YUL service!

Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad......

Mark, how would you be bold enough to make this statement?







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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:27 am

Does this mean that WJ will be flying Apparatus' or B737-700's??? I mean when they convert the english to french....remember what happend with jetsgo?

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:49 am

WestJet is a canadian airline,and it has to follow canadian language laws, Unlike US airlines. If a can of tuna has to be in french then certainly the airline will have to provide adequate service for french speaking guests. Moncton (being a very bilingual city) is a mini call center for reservations who can provide service in french as well. The website will be adapted into french this year, That's the word around here.

As for the whole apparatus/B737-700 debacle I believe that WJ will be flying into Quebec "Les grands avions blancs de boeing 737-700" with "Gicleur Ouest" painted on the side.

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:01 am

"Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad......

Mark, how would you be bold enough to make this statement?"

-Because despite all your negativity and bias, Quebec is still the 3rd largest aviation market, and still the 2nd biggest economy in Canada (yes more than 65% of it is located in Montreal). And despite this, towns.. I mean Towns are served before a world-class metropolis like Montreal.... so I get really confused.

Its really funny that on their route map, you'll see lines flying everywhere, yet this big black hole for the province of Quebec. Them and Conquest.... man o' man..

Again I re-iterate, Halifax, TOronto, Winnipeg are the 3 markets served low-fare from Montreal. YWG and YHZ do not even come close to the O&D size of YULYVR, YULYYC and even YULYEG (based on statistics Canada 51-204 1999)... these markets are only LEFT to Air Toronto and his joke of an affiliate LCC Tango.........

So Im hoping to see them here, they are needed very badly to stimulate numbers and competition out of Montreal (numbers have been decreasing ever since 2Ts bankruptcy)... For god sake, how many times can one fly to YULYYZ??

Mark
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:09 am

I think WJ's next expansion will be a US city.....MDW. The LCC airport of Chicago, with nonstops from YHM & YYC.

IMHO
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:16 am

I doubt MDW. The demand for YYCORD is very weak! Less than 80000 pax per year!

However, I do see YYCSNA and YHMMDW/YHMFLL

Mark
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:42 am

I don't see WJ doing transborder before going to Quebec. Of course, charters don't count. They will have a heck of a time though, since their staff isn't required to speak French. You'd think Jetsgo would have a competitive advantage in that department.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:07 am

-And how would you be bold enough to determine this?

Simple.......it's because they have not added YUL service!


That's bogus! Last week Windsor didn't have any flights to Winnipeg, does that mean it didn't warrant a flight?

If I asked you Neil, last week, if Windsor warranted a flight to Winnipeg, you would have aswered "no, because if it did, an airline would fly it!"

Your statements make no sense whatsoever. It takes time to add a route. Many cities warrant new flights, but there are other obstacles in the way!
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:13 am

They will have a heck of a time though, since their staff isn't required to speak French.

WJ could choose to start YUL service with English-only staff.

Your statements make no sense whatsoever. It takes time to add a route. Many cities warrant new flights, but there are other obstacles in the way!

Then tell me why WJ continues to avoid YUL service, if you have all the answers.

Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad......

Noise.....does this statement by FLYYUL make sense????


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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:17 am

Then tell me why WJ continues to avoid YUL service, if you have all the answers.

I don't have all the answers, and neither do you!

The most probable reason is because of the lack of facilities at YHU. WJ doesn't want to go to YUL, Bill Lamberton himself told me that, they want to go to YHU!

You can't just say that doesn't fly to a certain route just because there is not enough demand, like I said, there are other obstacles.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:28 am

You can't just say that doesn't fly to a certain route just because there is not enough demand, like I said, there are other obstacles.

The PRIMARY reason why any airline does not fly a specific route is due a lack of (profitable) demand.

Noise, what do you make of the following statement by FLYYUL? Do you agree? Disagree?

Once again WestJet feels that Quebec is not part of this country, quite sad......



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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:30 am

The liberals are destroying this country...something needs to be done...end of rant.

Finally, you guys see the light! I've been saying that for years, but nobody listens. One of the many, many reasons I moved away from Canada. I truly hope there are more people like you up there.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:37 am

Actually i dont think DTW is effecting Windsor that much. Its a lot more convenient if you are a Canadien resident going to Windsor Airport so you don't have to deal with the Ambassador Bridge traffic. In a way 9-11 helped Windsor airport.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:31 am

"The PRIMARY reason why any airline does not fly a specific route is due a lack of (profitable) demand."

-In a perfect world yes... but each airline has a strategy, and will seldom abort their strategy to fit routes. Imagine AA doing PIT-DTW or DL doing TUL-MSP.... etc..

I refuse to believe that there is more (profitable) demand in Thunder Bay, Grande Prairie, Kelowna, Moncton than Montreal, and let us not be so blind as to believe that this is the MAIN reason......

Perhaps i was exagerating with my statement, but its just funny that if its not for a Montreal based airline, it takes so long for somebody to break into the Quebec market, more based on this "fear" that Quebec is this foreign market. And I dont doubt for one second that WestJet may feel like this... but nonetheless, I think it is kinda funny to see WestJet in London/Thunder Bay and even Sudbury before Montreal................ and what to conclude from this?

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:09 am

Seriously, I'm surprized that WJ does not operate the Yellowknife or Whitehorse where the yields are so high.

Yeah if they ever did start flying into YZF and YXY, we (First Air), CP North and Air North would take a beating in terms of yield. So WJ, for the sake of my job, please neglect the North! (lol).

Actually i dont think DTW is effecting Windsor that much. Its a lot more convenient if you are a Canadien resident going to Windsor Airport so you don't have to deal with the Ambassador Bridge traffic. In a way 9-11 helped Windsor airport.

Probably not affecting Canadians going to DTW, but it has with Americans using YQG. I believe pre-9/11 about 20% of the at YQG pax used to come from Detroit, now I hear it's down to about 5%. (don't hold me to this though).

YQG is an excellent choice as WestJet can test out the US market without having to physically be there. Also despite our high taxes, the low dollar does make flying from YQG attractive. It's like getting a 50% discount for Americans off of the base fare.

Neil, I doubt they will enter the US before flying to YYT.



 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:19 am

If anyone has flown Westjet there are French announcements, sure it's usually the tape, and it's the law...but oh well. If there is a fluently speaking francophone flight attendant, then they will say the announcement. So Westjet is bilingual, just not fully.

U.S. expansion, best guesses are Chicago Midway and Pheonix Sky Harbour.

Expansion into Quebec-istan should come before though, but who knows.
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:20 am

Regarding WJ in the north, I'm going to take Neil's standard answer and say if there were an opportunity there, they'd be there. Expanding on that, it's my understanding that passenger traffic isn't that great up north, and cargo is the way to go. For WJ to capitalize on that, they'd be better off flying combi configured aircraft. I am just hypothesizing, so I could be way off.

Here is their route map. As you can see, Quebec is empty, but there's only one destination in Manitoba, and the east coast only have 2 destinations. It's only a matter of time before WJ finds a home in Quebec.

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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:39 am

Yeah the chances of WJ going up north are slim. Unlike us, operating combi aircraft is not part of WJ's core competentices. It's not that traffic in the north is poor, but rather the opportunities for much growth are small. Heck 7F and 5T combined operate up to 6 YEG-YZF flights a day.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:58 am

Does WJ ever plan on flying to the U.S.? or are they the WN of Canada?
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:02 am

Good points guys on why WJ does not add Yellowknife or Whitehorse. I hadn't thought of the combi aspect.

WJ has indicated an interest in adding US service in the next 2-3 years, but have not announced any destinations.

I agree that YYT seems a likely addition.

They are also anxious to add YKA (Kamloops) once the airport is upgraded to handle 732 aircraft.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:00 pm

Fallingeese:
Expansion into Quebec-istan should come before though
Please keep that sort of thoughts for you. Perhaps I should call Alb. Albertistan? Or would you like to be treated of "English frog" when you come to Quebec?

Mark, I agree. I believe Montreal could certainly be a profitable destination for WJ. But, they'll have to provide services in french, otherwise Quebeckers won't fly them. In a province where 85% of the population is french, you expect and I expect to be served in that language just like english canadians expect to be served in english If they fly TACA or BWIA, not in spanish. That's called tolerance. Sometimes opportunities for airlines are there, but optimum slot time and landing fees scare them away. That is perhaps why WJ is interested in YHU more than YUL.

Good luck to them in Windsor.

 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:04 pm

Well let's not speak of the hicks in Alberta... then come to Montreal and go nuts.... as usual, like every other people from North America that "talk" for a past time about how great they are...

Mark
 
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RE: Westjet Adds Windsor

Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:11 pm

Noise, what do you make of the following statement by FLYYUL? Do you agree? Disagree?

Well Neil, when you take into account that WJ first said they would enter YUL by October 2000, then they said by December 2002, and haven't done that, then evidence support that WJ is snubbing YUL. Although I believe that WJ is snubbing YUL for other reasons (e.i. YHU does not have the facilities), you can't blame Mark for what he said! As I said, I believe it is for different reasons, but he does have a point! It's his word against WJ's, and WJ has lied to us twice! If this was a debate, Mark would win!

What do you care about my opinion any way? According to you, I'm a "pre-pubescent 13yo"!