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US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 3:01 am


An update on the situation:

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030123/airlines_eu_us_2.html

The intra-EU struggle continues.
 
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RE: US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:09 am

Which the EU promptly scorned:

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030123/1311000754_1.html

Can't wait to see how the individual countries respond.
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RE: US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:18 am

This dispute is all about form and nothing about substance from an aviation and economic standpoint. Politically though it is another story and the EU should tread carefully.
 
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RE: US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:35 am

It's a useful concession, but I'm wondering if it's in response to the recently announced EU plan to penalise non-EU airlines which have received state funding. This is clearly directed at the US and its airlines and were the EU to press ahead, it would cause a pretty vicious battle.

The EU has, contrary to what the article has said, been successful in getting airlines to strike down their open skies deals with the US, in that the EU court has ruled these illegal, so they have to abandon them. The UK has a problem with Heathrow, the Irish are happily shooting themselves in the foot with the Shannon stopover, Greece has an Olympic battle ahead of it, but Spain can deal with it manana. However, the EU will hopefully focus attention on the first two - Ireland and Britain - which are said to have the biggest objection to the EU negotiating directly with the US.
 
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RE: US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:57 am

If I remember the ruling correctly, the EU Court of Justice didn't say the agreements per se were illegal, just that parts of them (specifically the 'nationality' issue) were. Basically it left open the possibility that each country could modify the agreements to come into line with EU law. What the US has offered goes a long way towards making those agreements compliant, though not completely. And, AFAIK, no country has publicly agreed to or even suggested that they would be willing to cede negotiating power on this issue to the EU.

Like I said earlier, can't wait to hear how the individual countries respond.

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RE: US Offers EU Open-Skies Concessions

Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:21 am

The US should make every effort to make a deal with the UK, regardless of what the power-hungry EU politicians in Brussells think.
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