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How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:42 am

Hello guys!

I would like to confirm if I am correct. UPS has 3 MD-11's at the moment, 250,251,252? Is this all for the time being? How many more are they suppossed to get, and when?

Also, what are the routes they are flying now?

I believe its only SDF-ANC ANC-HKG HKG-ANC ANC-SDF? Am I right?

Thanks!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:48 am

The original "order" was for 13 used MD-11's, with options on a further 22.

With JAL, DL & SW all retiring their PW MD-11's, there should be no shortage for UPS.
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:01 am

But for now I think they only have 3? Any idea when the next one will be delivered?

-Dmitry
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 11:42 am

They have / are getting:

N250UP ex PP-SPL IN SERVICE
N251UP ex PP-SPK IN SERVICE
N252UP ex PP-SFA IN SERVICE
N253UP ex PP-VPM IN SERVICE
N254UP ex PP-VPL

N270UP ex JA8585
N271UP ex JA8581
N272UP ex JA8580
N273UP ex JA8583
N27*UP ex JA8582
N27*UP ex JA8584
N27*UP ex JA8586
N27*UP ex JA8587
N27*UP ex JA8588
N27*UP ex JA8589
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:15 pm

Thanks for the helpful info!

So 4 in service at the moment. I have not seen 253UP yet.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:44 pm

Sad to see JA8589 going to become a freighter it was a very nice passenger plane so are all other MD11s. I just been on it last Friday  Sad
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Mon Jan 27, 2003 11:11 am

The MD11's for some reason didn't last long in the pax service, and hopefully we see them in cargo service for many years!

Check my photos in 5 or so days, I have some interesting shots coming!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Mon Jan 27, 2003 11:42 am

The MD11's for some reason didn't last long in the pax service, and hopefully we see them in cargo service for many years!

That reason is no mystery... MD11s have an inefficient wing/airfoil design, too small a rudder, pitch difficulties, etc; and as such, they failed miserably to deliver the performance specifications promised by McDonnel Douglas. Once the A340 and especially the 777 debuted, the M11s demise was assured.
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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Mon Jan 27, 2003 11:44 am

We can thank the MD-11, however, for the contribution of the trailing edge wedge to the 744ER's airfoil design.

And for the research necessary to create the MD-10 quickly and extend the life of that Douglas airliner.

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RE: How Many MD-11's For UPS Now?

Tue Jan 28, 2003 9:23 am

I have talked you some UPS MD-11 pilots, and they like the plane a lot!

Will UPS be picking up any of the parked planes in the desert like the ones from VASP? If so, any idea which regs and when? I might be able to catch them in ANC.

-Dmitry