jcs17
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Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:51 pm

http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3617321.html

Note: This only covers 10-19 seaters.

I could care less about stepping on a scale before boarding. I'm sure the only people that wont be happy about this are the same people that require seat belt extenders! Big grin
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FlyingTexan
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:00 am

Following are some excerpts as published in the AP article that appeared in the Minneapolis St. Paul Star Tribune (see link above).


Debby McElroy, president of the Regional Airlines Association, which is working with the FAA, said airlines are being asked to weigh passengers and bags over three days within the next month at about a third of the airports used by aircraft carrying 10 to 19 passengers.

The survey will affect passengers on about 200 Jetstream 31s, Metro 23s and Beech 1900s, McElroy said.

All bags will be weighed, but the FAA is letting the airlines decide whether they'll require passengers to step on scales or simply ask them how much they weigh.

The agency will allow airlines to add 10 pounds to each passenger because some people may underestimate their weight.

Passengers who refuse to divulge their weight can be barred from the flight, the FAA said.


Any guess on how long until the ACLU files a complaint and/or suit?
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elwood64151
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:26 pm

It doesn't matter. The airline reserves the right to refuse transport for safety reasons. I've had to unload peoples bags from a flight because the plane could make it with passengers, but not with half their bags. We sent them on the next plane. The pax weren't happy, but they each got $25 for their trouble if their bag didn't make it.

If the pax doesn't want to step on the scale or tell the airline their weight, then too darn bad. We're talking about safety, here, not self-image. Their right to self expression and/or privacy ends with my (and your) safety.

They don't want to do it, they can take the train.
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buckfifty
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boardi

Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:30 pm

I wonder if they're going to calculate out a new std. pax weight for the smaller acft...
 
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:35 pm

Another bad news for Mc Donalds....  Big thumbs up

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n949wp
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:29 pm

Perhaps in consideration of the passengers privacy, they can use scales that indicate various "zones" instead of actual weight. Then, use standard pax weight for the lowest zone, and add increments for every zone above.

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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:12 am

 
bobcat
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:49 am

According to the medical journals, more than 60% of
American adults are overweight. Half of them are women.
How many women will be willing to stand on a scale
before they get on a plane?

What will this really mean for the airlines?(financially, that is)

Just a thought...  Smile

 
FlyingTexan
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 8:00 am

Elwood64151 is correct!!!

The airline reserves the right to refuse transport for safety reasons.

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bsergonomics
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 8:48 am

A slightly more scientific approach...

We (the scientific community) have tables with ranges of data for all sorts of body measurements, including body weight. These are measured in 'percentiles', where 0% is the smallest and 100% is the largest. Humans range enormously in all aspects. So, to give usable data, we use specific data ranges. For example, aircraft cockpits used to be designed for people in the height range of 5th to 95th percentile. Nowadays it tends to be for people in the range from 3rd or 5th percentile female to 95th or 97th percentile male. This can give you a height range from 5'0 to 6'4 (this also depends on which population you are using).

However, humans in general are getting taller. Meanwhile, those in developed countries are also getting wider. It is not surprising, therefore, that we are getting heavier. Essentially, this is a pilot study to see if a wider survey is required to check to see if the amount of growth is sufficient to warrant a wider scale measurement exercise. If the percentage growth is more than a certain amount (to be decided by the FAA/JAA), then the average weight of a passenger will be increased when calculating total passenger weight and weight & balance calculations.

Hope this helps.
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aa61hvy
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:30 am

Average adult is 185 with bags? Man I'm 210 with out bags, with bags I'm like 240.
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redngold
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:36 am

...any passengers found to be of excess weight will automatically be tagged to "FAT"

*giggle* That would be me...

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FlyingTexan
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RE: Airlines To Check Weights Of Pax Before Boarding

Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:10 pm

OMG – Redngold, hilarious you mention ‘FAT’ as a tag.

Fresno, right?

One time at AA, my co-worker took a call at the res center as the supervisor on duty. A Fresno passenger was calling to complain that her bag tag was degrading and was upset that AA ridicule her.

JR FlyingTexan

(Good thing she was not flying to FUK in Japan)
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