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DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:23 am

Following USAirways decision a few weeks ago, DL will begin operating 737-300's on its' Shuttle flights. The a/c are to be fitted with 120 leather seats in a one class layout.

Are these the previous Germania 737's that have been returned to their lessor or were they parked in the desert for the past year? Or are these the former Western 737's that have operated through SLC and DFW?

The Shuttle 737-800's are to be refitted with standard DL 2 class configuration and reassigned to the mainline fleet.
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:27 am

Kind of ironic how just a few short years ago Delta and US Airways were in a race to introduce (and heavily advertise) their new planes (A320 and later the A319 for US, 737-800 for DL). Now, Delta appears to quietly be changing equipment. Although, I don't know US' plans, even flying smaller A319s would still be more attractive than 15 year old planes with leather seats.

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gigneil
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:47 am

US does already operate the A319 BOS-DCA.

US is arguably the leader in this market still - they still offer hourly service from/to all three airports and not just 2 spokes from LGA, and they connect a ton of passengers from their other flights onto the Shuttle as well.

They could easily adjust the LGA-BOS and LGA-DCA routes down to the A319.

DL couldn't do that easily, since they own no 737-700s.

US will want to keep their early morning DCA departure, and their late evening DCA arrival. For this, they need to hold on to the Airbus and not backtrack to the 737.

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N628AU
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:02 am

The latest from US is that DCA-LGA-BOS will operate with A319 shuttle aircraft, and put the higher capacity A320 aircraft on other routes more needing of the extra capacity (Carribean maybe?). The B737 will run on the BOS-DCA route and compete with AA and DL regional jets. This move seems to give US an advantage in this market. Even going to a B737-300, I'll take it over an RJ anyday.
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Sun Feb 02, 2003 3:20 pm

"Following USAirways' decision..."

Does that mean USAirways will also re-introduce the 737-300 on the Shuttle route? USAirways used the 733 as an interim for the transition between 727s and Airbusses...

Do you have a source for the Delta announcement please?
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:01 am

The ex-Germania planes will be but into Shuttle service. The -800 will return to mainline in the all coach Shuttle config.
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:29 am

Is this DL decision based on reduced shuttle loads or a decision to not fly the latest aircraft on the shuttle since US is not?

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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:51 am

Will the 737s be outfitted with the flip-down video screens found on the current shuttle 738s?

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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:02 am

Regarding the DL 733s going on shuttle and an annoucement...they are already on the routes.
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Tue Feb 04, 2003 2:18 am

So does it mean that US will place B737-300 on the run? If so, are they going to put the same aircrafts that they had couple of years ago on DCA-BOS flights?

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ouboy79
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Tue Feb 04, 2003 6:59 am

As we discussed months ago (but somehow, some people refused to believe it)...US Airways Shuttle will put the 733 on the DCA-LGA and LGA-BOS runs. BOS-DCA will be 319 while the 320s go back to mainline flying in all coach configs.
 
gigneil
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:52 am

BOS-DCA will continue to operate the A319? That doesn't sound right.

The higher demand routes are BOS-LGA and DCA-LGA.

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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:01 pm

Gigneil-

That's actually not true as regards US Airways' business. While total demand is higher on BOS-LGA and LGA-DCA than on BOS-DCA, US Airways carries more passengers on BOS-DCA than it does on the other two routes. The average numbers for 2002Q2 were:

BOS-LGA: total daily pax=4531, US Airways share=32.09%=1454 pax.
DCA-LGA: total daily pax=4008, US Airways share=40.89%=1639 pax.
BOS-DCA: total daily pax=2587, US Airways share=71.80%=1857 pax.

Delta leads in market share on the first two routes, despite having slightly higher fares. Right now, shuttle traffic is terrible due to competition from the Acela Express and increased hassle at security checkpoints (as well as a depressed economy in general). When you consider that US runs roughly 15 daily departures between BOS and LGA daily, and that those passenger numbers are both directions combined, US only gets about 50 O&D passengers on each of those flights (there's some connecting traffic). That's not really enough to justify the A320 (or the 737-800 for Delta) anymore.

As far as most passengers can tell, if the interior looks and smells new, it's a new plane...
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:29 pm

I haven't seen any 733s for Delta yet while looking at passur
 
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RE: DL Shuttle To Begin Ops' W/ B737-300's

Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:32 pm

US flies the A319 BOS-DCA.

They only fly the A320 LGA-DCA and LGA-BOS.

That's why I was asking.

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