clipper471
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Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 12:24 pm

Only the second time that the military has mobilized the Civil Reserve Air Fleet...

The current CRAF allocation can be seen thru this link...
http://www.rspa.dot.gov/oet/craf/index.html

Twenty-two airlines and their 78 commercial aircraft -- 47 passengers aircraft and 31 wide-body cargo carriers -- are covered under the "Stage 1" activation. Stage 1 is the lowest activation level. Stage 2 would involve more aircraft for a major regional conflict and Stage 3 could be declared for a full-fledged national mobilization.

The passenger participants in the initial stage are American Airlines, American Trans Air, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Hawaiian Airlines, North American Airlines, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, United Airlines, US Airways and World Airways.

The cargo participants are Airborne Express, Air Transport International, Arrow Air, Atlas Air, DHL Airways, Evergreen International Airlines, FedEx, Gemini Air Cargo, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, UPS, and World Airways.


http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030208/iraq_usa_airfleet_1.html

[Edited 2003-02-09 04:25:39]
 
HlywdCatft
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 12:28 pm

Would this be for in case of war to move the troops?

Wasn't this done in 1991 with Tower Air and Pan Am for moving troops?
 
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 12:28 pm

Its getting closer. I say we're going between March 2nd and March 4th.
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clipper471
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:41 pm

Yep, Pan Am and Tower transported troops during the first activation in 1990/1.
 
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:11 pm

How much do ya all think this move will help the airlines?
 
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:32 pm

It won't help them - they don't make much, if any, money flying these charters. The Feds hook them in with financing terms on some of their aircraft, and ka-whammo, off they go. In Gulf War I, PanAm's entire 747 fleet (as I recall) was taken over, as they had sought Reserve Fleet financing to secure their 747 fleet and pay for upgrades/mods.

Which is why we saw so many of GWI soldiers stepping out of Clippers.
Respectfully - the Divo
 
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 6:17 pm

There's a website where you can look at the list of these aircraft in "Stage 3" mobilization. Quite a few 777's from AA and UA, as well as 744's from UA and NW. God, I actually was looking at it and got chills. Could you imagine all of those being used for military?

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clipper471
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:49 pm

Drdivo, in the case of Pan Am, NOT all of their 747's were a part of the CRAF.

At the time of Gulf War I, 18 of the 35 747's in the fleet were allocated to the CRAF. However, I don't believe all 18 were used during the airlift operation.

[Edited 2003-02-09 15:52:34]
 
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:39 am

The CRAF list for flight attendants opened for bidding the other week at United...

Operation Desert Shield/Storm flights not only flew from the US to Europe, but mainly from Brussels to Riyadh with a five day layover in Brussels. Scary part was when all the crew were issued gasmasks on their way in.

Just pray to St. Bona (patron saint of flight attendants) that everyone makes it back safely.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L
 
clipper471
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RE: Pentagon Mobilizes Craf

Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:39 am

I also remember that Germany was a stopping point on the way to the Gulf in 1990-91.