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Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:49 pm

Ok, So we have FLL and IAH.

I am making this post so that if anyone gets news about any other airports, they can post them here.

This is an All Airport Thread here. Please post any information.
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:39 am

DTW has been locked down seems like since 1996, the cops chased me away then.

What about that SFO parking area? I thought I heard that was locked down.

I believe Nashville and Cincinnati are still open.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:37 am

I wouldn't consider DTW in a lock down. I still go up to the top level of both parking decks and never have been questioned. I feel that DTW is very friendly when it comes to spotters.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:47 am

Greetings:

Well ISP isn't all that locked down. While security in the terminal and just outside the terminal is the same as everywhere else. Once you get past the checkpoints you can take pics of the planes on the ramp. Also there's still plenty of spotting areas to chose from. Plus you still can drive down the construction roads to where there building the new Southwest terminal.

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Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:02 am

Things are about to change at DTW.

I just read in the Detroit Free Press that they will be searching all cars again going into the garage.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:13 am

I belive ATL is pretty much locked down to spotters. It's kinda hard to spot there anyway ( I always lose my sense of direction there, but thats another story for another time)
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:04 am

I belive ATL is pretty much locked down to spotters.

Is this just for out-of-concourse spotting, or can you not spot in the concourse anymore? I will have a ticket, so I will have an explanation that I am just "enjoying the scenery."
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:25 am

Add the Frontage Road location on the north side of the Beeline Expressway on the north side of MCO (Orlando Int'l). However there are certainly others locations at MCO from which to shoot and spot.

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Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:35 am

I mean like post 9/11 stuff... dono about inside security, haven't been since 9/11... $ issue
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:49 am

Read an article that said that DFW was locked down too.

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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:03 am

Would you care to post a link to the article?
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:06 am

ATL: is the parking deck now off limits???

DFW: did they actually close Founders Plaza?


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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:23 am

What happened to the IAH Locked Down thread?

Well, anyway, I wrote a letter to the ACLU about the IAH closure. We'll see where that goes.
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:34 am

I'd hope that that nonsense with closing spotting areas will be stopped in the near future.
If it goes on, it seems like the terrorists have win! We can't change our everyday life because of them!!!

Here in Europe its not such extremely like in the US.... im hoping that you can go spotting again without that limits in the near future.

Good Luck

Oh yes - Sign up the list from the topc >> IAH NEEDS YOUR HELP....! << !!!!!!!

So it will be possible to save another spotting area!

greetings from INN.
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:39 am

I dont think DFW has closed Founders Plaza yet. http://www.dfwairport.com is usually very up to date, and will always inform of changes. Right now, they are only listing the new parking policies. DFW is very spotter friendly, and I doubt that they will close it (unless we go to level Red).
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:43 am

Would you care to post a link to the article?

Certainly:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030207/daf041_1.html
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:48 am

Let me reitterate

I do not know EXACTLY what is closed and waht is not closed at ATL

However; They are back to the restrictions that were lifteda few months ago... put forth after 9/11. So, if this means whatever you are saying, yes. But, I do not know what they closed after 9/11 so I cannot answer your questions. If anyone CAN, please post it here. I would imagine that the roads around the airport (Loop Road; yea, origional name) are being patrolled, but am not 100% sure
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:15 am

I took some pictures of how empty BTV was at 8:30PM and a TSA guy gave me a dirty look and looked like he would have detained me if he knew who I was, luckily I was able to put my small Exilim camera right in my pocket, and look not suspicous.
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 9:34 am

Flyingbronco05,

Are you sure that's the correct article? It doesn't say anything about Founders Plaza.
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:41 pm

Well ISP isn't all that locked down. While security in the terminal and just outside the terminal is the same as everywhere else. Once you get past the checkpoints you can take pics of the planes on the ramp. Also there's still plenty of spotting areas to chose from. Plus you still can drive down the construction roads to where there building the new Southwest terminal

Unfortunately, it looks as if that nice spotting area off Smithtown Ave. is lost and gone forever  Sad
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:44 pm

Wouldn't it just be easier to deport all non citizens from these questionable countries?
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:06 pm

Some of these non-citizens, if not a majority, are here because they were persecuted in the above-mentioned questionable countries. You could kick them out, but where would they go? Either someone has to take them or they would end up back where they could be imprisoned, tortured or killed.

The US has long taken pride in its willingness to accept refugees fleeing religious, ethnic, or political persecution. The reason it is hard to get into the US from many countries(like Haiti and sometimes Cuba) is because the welcome does not always extend to those fleeing harsh economic conditions or who simply think there are better opportunities in the US economy. Refugees from the "axis of evil" have a much easier time proving their case that they are fleeing persecution than those from more friendly or less oppressive regimes. This is how it should be.

Even apart from its history.... the US has a responsibility as an industrialized country to accept people fleeing from oppression. We even have a responsibility to accept a reasonable number (though not all - we can't do it all on our own) of those fleeing NOT from oppression but from starvation, war or other dangerous conditions.

In short, it is both compassionate and in our long-term interest to harbor such people. I hope we do not let the terrorists win by letting the fear of terror stop us from doing the right thing.

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Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:24 pm

So in the meantime let them overcrowd our country and take our airport jobs?

If they want to stay here, then they should learn English and become a citizen.

I know about oppressed people coming to the United States- I am Albanian, but I also learned the language and am a citizen.
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:00 pm

What % of people in America have family going back 100 - 150 years or so ??
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:56 pm

Anyone been to the MIA photo holes, or LAX in the last few days?
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:19 pm

A friend of mine who works at MIA new runway project saw US cusoms agents patrolling the camera holes at MIA. He said they were not letting anyone there. This was late Friday afternoon.
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:20 pm

I managed to sit at the Lee Rd. location at IAH today for about 20 minutes before the police ran me off. I told them I pulled over to answer my cell phone as to not endanger others on the road. It worked.
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:56 pm

U. S. Customs agents at MIA have nothing to do with folks at the photo holes except give them hell if the people are dumb enough to ignore the signs and park in their designated parking lot. The Customs Cargo Clearance Center is just to the west of the holes and they routinely drive back and forth to their offices. Someone working on the new runway project is hardly in a vantage point good enough to tell what is going on. In fact, I've heard that the photo holes are the only place where folks are not being run off from but I can't vouch for that any more than someone on the new runway project saying that people are being run off from the holes.

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Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:25 pm

I told them I pulled over to answer my cell phone as to not endanger others on the road. It worked.

Good excuse.
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:07 pm

PDX is patrolled but since everyone stays on the correct side of the fence, there is no trouble. Last week, I was on the bike path that runs on the north and west of the field. Today, I was on the top floor of the parking structure. In fact, security drove right by me today and did not stop. If you want spotting, come to PDX.
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:28 pm

What % of people in America have family going back 100 - 150 years or so ??

Probably 70-80% of white American's ancestors emigrated during that stated time frame. My ancestors or should I say...my grandparents...on both sides of my family didnt immigrate until the 1930s.
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 7:27 pm

LHR -----> 400+ Armed Troops, including tanks patroling the airport and perimiter fence, cant really get any worse than that!
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:25 am

Someone working on the new runway project is hardly in a vantage point good enough to tell what is going on.

It is when his office/ trailers is only about 300ft away from the photo holes and he passes the area between 10 and 15 times a day. I wouldn't post information if I didn't trust my source somewhat.
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:42 am

**I told them I pulled over to answer my cell phone as to not endanger others on the road. It worked.**

I did an excuse like that at DTW once. After they closed the Checkpoint 6 viewing area at DTW by what is now the threshold of 22L. It was a hot day and it was the time when a lot of the heavies came to DTW, so I pulled over to the side of Wick Road where they pass over about 50-100 feet overhead. Low and behold a cop comes and tells me to leave. Knowing the reputation of Detroit area cops who won't help you when you have troubles, I told him I was having car trouble and he said "ok" and drove off, go figure he didn't offer to help.

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