What a wonderful post. Thanks for your uplifting comments. Okay, where to begin. First off a little bit of information about me. I love aviation and want to be a pilot. I worked at a flight school during college and enjoyed the experience. I did line service and was able to view the industry from the bottom of the barrel. As I stated I'm currently in the process of joining the military to fly. It's been a long process without alot of hoops to jump through. A ticket OCS and SUPT is worth it. Right now though I'm working towards my private certificate. It makes me that much better of a candidate. I'm schedule to complete my first prog check tomorrow. We were up the other day and couldn't do the landings. Dealing with a 22 knot crosswind in the C-152 is tricky stuff! I managed 1 landing and 1 go around. Then we decided that we would continue at a later date. What carrier do you work for? What aircraft do you fly?
My attitude is that of a scab. Well, I've never been a member of a union nor have I crossed a picket line. That being said, I really dislike unions and feel that 95% of the time they cause alot of headaches. I guess there is no way around them though. Can you name me some airlines that don't have unions? Oh, also can you tell me what their current financial status is?
You expect to be treated like a professional. I don't blame you, but please act like one. You get to fly for a living. Have you forgotten that? A clean hotel, with reasonable rooms is what you should have. Providing you with fitness equipment? I don't think that is reasonable. As I said, run in the rain, do pushups on the floor etc.
Can't compare military to civilian life. Unfortunately, you are correct. Most people in the service that fly understand the luck that has befallen them. Getting to fly F-15Es or C-17s is an extreme joy and privelege. Therefore they don't complain about not having 5 star hotels. Basically they complain when they don't get fed for a few days, or continue to live in barracks put up in 1956. To me, it's worth it. Thats right, I want to fly in the service and I'm willing to make a heck of alot less than a civilian equivalent. I've made a decision and I'm happy with it.
Now, for your comment "Those of us who just worked hard hate people like you who would walk up and do it for free." I guess flying in the military is just a big frat party? Your comment is extremely narrow minded. Also, I've worked in the civilian aviation sector. I know the civilain route. Let's drop this one okay?
I'm the reason things like this come up? How on earth is that? I'm not looking to underbid your salary. All I said was that I would be extremely happy to sit right seat in an airliner. That being said, maybe it's people like you who pushed for extreme salary increases. It's definately working wonders for the pilots at United now. I want a honest days pay for an honest days work. Sorry, but things have been getting out of control. I have several friends who fly for American and Northwest. One American 767 captain friend of mine was telling me about a fella that jumpseated on his route. The fella was going on and on about how the union was getting ready to strike. My friend turned around and said, "There isn't going to be a f*cking strike if you still want your job." He agreed with me that there are way to many prima dona pilots out there. He still LOVES to go flying after 20 plus years. I'm suspecting your one of the prima donas. Personally, I think your the problem with the entire industry.
What things have you worked hard to get in your contracts? Explain it to me. Maybe I agree. As I stated earlier. I want a clean room, a shower and it should be in a half-decent neighborhood. A gym would be great, but I can run outside and do pushups on the floor. As for flight schedules, thats part of the job and I'll fly when it's my time. I don't care if I ride in a bus to the airport. I will also fly 70+ hours a month or what I'm required to do. I'd like to fly the 737NG.
As for flying requirements. No I'm not one who says "to hell with the requirement". Where did you ever get that impression? When it's time to work it's time to work. When it's time to rest it's time to rest. Grey areas happen and DEAL WITH IT
. Do you follow your union contract to the t? I'm betting you do. Yes, sometimes management does ask for too much and it needs to be dealt with. Again, I'm not sure where you stand on issues so I'll wait for a response.
Sorry to hear about your lack of rigidity in certain areas. Personally, I'm fine there. I save that kind of umm feeling though for a very special lady. Oh did I mention a life in the A.F. may cost me her? Yup, the military life is an easy one as women love to be left for months at a time.
The kind of "Oh I've flown 1000 hours and I'm tired" nonsense along with wait till you live it attitude doesn't fly with me. My father still gets up for work and looks forward to it. Heck after MANDATORY AGE
retirement from a government agency he took 3 months off and was back at the same office doing pretty much the same job. Gotta love civilain liasion contractors! He's been at the job 30+ years. Oh, at times he worked 20 hour shifts for several months in a row and didn't complain. He slept at the office inside office furniture. He wasn't ALLOWED to go home. He never once complained though as that is what his JOB entailed. He worked undercover with the scum of the earth and didn't whine about not getting to stay the Ritz. Thats what being a professional is. He also has everything but his ATP. Flying has never lost its luster. When you've dealt with half of the situations he did in 30 years, then come talk to me.
As for staying away from commericial aviation, I'm going to try. My hitch in the A.F. will be for about 10 years. So, maybe I'll see you in 10 years. Just remember, don't be rude to your first officer, he may be your captain later on.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower