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Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:45 am

It's always fun to see a smaller airline with a large plane. I think of the regional carriers that have/ had at least one or two big planes for their handful of oversees routes.

For example:

In the past:
Air Florida's DC10-s to Europe
Piedmont's 767's to London.
People Express 747 to Europe

And now:
British Midland's A330 to ORD

What else?
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:46 am

Anybody remember the four America West 747-200's that went PHX-HNL-Nagoya back in the 90's. Non rev heaven from what I heard, and then the Honolulu to Nagoya route was sold to Northwest for some bucks.
 
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:47 am

PEOPLExpress 747s to Gatwick and Brussels
Austrian used to be an all-MD80 airline with two A310s serving the US
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:48 am

If you think bmi British Midland is a small carrier, then our longhaul routes beat them hands down:

UK-Cancun
UK-Acapulco
UK-Caribbean
UK-Florida
UK-Kenya
UK-Thailand

etc....

Virgin Atlantic is smaller than both bmi and ourselves, and they only fly longhaul routes (except for the Athens flight which I'm not sure still runs?)
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Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:52 am

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:53 am

Rick:

A little confused here. Which airline are you comparing VS and BD to?

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:55 am

Air Tahiti has ATR-42 (or -72) also.
 
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Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:59 am


The VS ATH run has been stopped for a while now.

Heard on the grapevine that more bmi long-haul routes to be announced soon...and that they are not US destinations = high probability of LHR being used. Anyway, one must remember that they will double their long-haul operation from June.

Does BACitiExpress count as a separate airline? If so, they've got 1 767 plying the MAN-JFK route amongst myriad ERJ145s, ATPs, DHC8s, 146s and RJ100s.

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Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:59 am

Citybird used to fly from BRU to several long haul destinations. EWR, MCO and MIA among them.
 
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:02 am

zrs70, it's Britannia.

Aren't Air Tahiti and Air Tahiti Nui unrelated?

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:21 am

Air Tahiti and Air Tahiti Nui are two different airlines. The first one only got ATR 42/72 the Polynesian flights and the last one A340 for long-haul flights
 
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:21 am

I think you are right David.
Would you consider BMI a smaller carrier? They do LHR-IAD I think.
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:23 am

What about MEA in the 1990s with their medium haul services to Europe (2-5 hours) and the Gulf (2-3 hours) operated with four A310s and some 707s and 720Bs (replaced by a few A320s); plus the 747 from Beirut to Sydney (via Singapore, also Dubai and Darwin sometimes) twice a week?! Not too shabby.
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 4:26 am

Just because an airline has one or two long route, it does not necessarily make it a large airline (hence this thread to begin with!)

Sure, Piedmont had a big east coast network. But their flight to LGW was a huge step. But that one flight did not put PI among the ranks of AA.
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Fri Feb 14, 2003 5:52 am

Edelweiss Air (Switzerland) - they are operating charter flight to the Maledives, to the Caribic and to North America with one A330-200.

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Orient Thai Airlines (Thailand) - flying long haul in Asia/far East with two L-1011 and three B 747-200s.

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Aero Continente (Peru?) - flying domestic services with B727 B737 and F-28. Their only long haul destination is Miami.

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 6:15 am

How about Air Pacific?
 
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 6:43 am

Air Namibia also fits well into that category in my opinion,serving both FRA and LHR with a single 744 (well at least until recently....)

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:04 am

I don't know how long of range you would consider this, but Spirit Airlines is doing or is about to do a Fort Lauderdale- Caracas route.
 
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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:28 pm

Before acquiring the A330, British Midland flew a handful of 707s in the 1970s and 1980s, including this nonfan beauty:

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Sat Feb 15, 2003 12:25 am

What about Santa Barbara Airlines in Venezuela. Their network is enterily domestic but for a flight CCS-MAD.

I could also add Spanair, whose Spanish and European network is oddly complemented by a couple of flights to YYZ, GRU and GIG.


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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:48 am

Southern Winds of Argentina can fit well in this cat.
Their only long haul routes are MIA and MAD with the 767-300

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Pluna's (Uruguay) only long haul route is MAD with a sole 767-300

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RE: Small(er) Carriers With A Long Range Routes...

Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:59 am

I thought Spanair's current Intercontinental network was operated by codeshares AC- to YYZ and RG- to GRU and GIG.
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